Many many data points in marketplace by brokers and shared deals. I suggest you start there. If you’re in NorCal. I see some loaners that have been sitting for awhile. You won’t get ccfr though.
Dealers across the board are now offering 12% based on what I shared above. Which makes me wonder if some of that federal tax incentive is passed as truncated money to the dealers.
The rules have changed.
If you can find a new car at 12% pre-incentives + 3666 incentives at buy rate, I think that’s a very good deal. Post on shared deal once you sign, my lease is not up for a few months so I won’t steal your car
I just leased a 530e at a 12% pre-incentive discount in norcal. It came at a 0.00020 bump in MF though.
I hit up all dealers in Norcal and beyond, including all my usual dealer contacts whom I’ve purchased from before. Only 1 was willing to do it and even that took work and patience.
Not saying you’re bs’ing about having multiple dealers at 12% pre-incentive. Just a data point. Maybe it was also because the ones I targeted had m-sport and shadowline.