Treat people online as you would in person. I doubt you would go up to a coworker and tell them they are dumb as sh!t for signing that lease. So “dealing with stupidity” here should be similar. You can tell them they got a bad deal and just educate.
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Have done this in person. Can’t be afraid of confrontation. 
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I never said ban them.
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I literally NEVER said ban inexperienced users. Like ever.
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Probably should have worded this entire thread differently. I never called for banning new users, just observing the massive influx of these posts.
New members are good, it means the forum is growing.
I was more suggesting like consolidating it into a new hackr section as opposed to “Ask the Hackrs” as the more meaningful posts in that section seem to be buried in deal checks.
Definitely didn’t mean to come off as salty 
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Honestly I agree with you on your point. To clean up the forum a new user should not be aloud to post until they read through the forums FAQ’s. I have been a part of many forums where you can’t post until a certain criteria is met. This eliminates useless threads where the trolls of the site come out to the middle school pile on, it also ups the education so that a “newbie” learns more and has a sense of direction when posting. Your totally on to somthing here.
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It’s sorta all here:
Getting people to actually read is another story. 
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This is the problem right here. We’ve had a rule here that there are no “pm me the info” or “I’m looking for a Corrola for 90/mo, let me know where to go” posts anymore, yet it continues to happen daily, even with people that have been around long enough to know better. People want instant gratification and aren’t willing to read or put in the effort themselves.
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Looking for a Lambo for $275 a month, PM me!!!
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Can’t even rent one per day for that. 
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How about making one thread “Stupid newbie “how’s this deal” questions” and that is the ONLY thread a new account can post in for … let’s say 3 days? AND they are restricted to 2 posts each 24-hr period for those first 3 days?
There seriously are too many absurd ones lately. $350 for a yaris? $950 for an ATS? $700 for a Rubicon? C’mon! Just a few mins of reading would tell any of these people these are stupid deals.
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And we make them submit a blood test just to make sure they are serious about leasing a car. Give me a break.
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Yes, that would be the logical next step after a 3-day posting restriction. 
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Honestly if it bothers you so much just skip them or move the to next leasing website.
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I open them because, on rare occasion, someone has a legit deal and reasonable question. Pretty sure I have been helping a lot of people. Besides, my suggestion is damned mild compared to others, so I’m not sure why it is ruffling any feathers.
But, pray tell, what is another leasing website with smarter posts? I’ll definitely go there. Just point me to it.
BTW, if you didn’t like my comment, why didn’t you just skip it? Hmmmm…
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Everybody in here needs to remember that the people that take these lousy deals are the reason why the hackers in here can make the deals they do. If it weren’t for them the auto industry would be out of business. So with that said, thank you newbies.
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Totally. And that’s why I have recently resorted to telling these posters to take the deal. 
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Why not lock down all forums for newbies until they read the 411 page, which will have the links to the “leasing 101” as well as 10 questions they must answer correctly before accessing the rest of the site?
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This site should be about helping people and newbies. No one was an expert on day one and I bet few of us actually took the time to read through the 101on the first visit.
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Of course. But what’s happening now is, they post typical n00b post, gets derided, and is discouraged from further knowledge. I believe there are certain things one should know before even attempting a question. What this site is and isn’t, for one.
It’s the same on every forum. Newbies take a beating- they don’t read, they don’t research etc.
I’m also a newbie. While I haven’t asked any questions, I’ve been reading this forum and the various posts every day and it’s helped me a lot. I’m in the market for a lease and the knowledge I’ve gained have definitely helped.
Does that make me a smart newbie? I don’t know.
What I do know is a lot of people are just looking for an answer quickly. How many of us have wondered something and just googled it? We do it to get the answer quickly and move on. I’m sure everyone here is guilty of that. The problem with doing that is you’re not actually learning anything by just asking for an answer but it’s the way of the Internet.
This will not change. If the consensus here is to ban newbies from posting good deals or asking stupid questions then I say go for it if everyone thinks it will make the public forum more enjoyable and informative.