Noted. I’d feel strange driving around in a BMW anyway.
Do you know whether the 2022 Prius Plug In Hybrids qualify for that same $5,200 if purchased before 12/31/22?
It isn’t on the list, it doesn’t qualify at all.
Some of my list doesn’t qualify either but that’s not the point. (Stay away from the lines that say CAP MET)
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Nothing toyota qualifies
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You can probably find one. Too late to order, but inventory exists
So the 2023 ID4 isn’t on that list.
I’ve read that 2023s qualify in full if purchase is completed / delivery made before the end of the year. Am I mistaken?
The ID4s built in TN qualify, yes. Also the S60 Recharge (no other Volvo PHEVs), the Mexico-built 330e and all X5e, the Escape PHEV or Mach E or Lightning, and the Leaf.
Generally: cross reference the fueleconomy.gov list with VINs that start with a number, not a letter…
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Yes the 2023 ID4 does, odd , I wonder why VW never updated the list. (answer, because you have to look at each individual ID4 and see where it’s made)
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Edited this into the main post, but:
Do you think it would it be worth cold emailing VW dealerships letting them know that if any cancelled (TN) orders arrive on their lot, we’d buy right away (provided MSRP, no add ons, OTD pricing in writing, etc.)?
Worth looking but many people are doing the same thing as you.
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My bad, thought it said 55
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You can always try, but my local Ford dealers are adding tons of ADM, just looked at an 80k lightning with a 20k adm sticker on it.
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I know. It’s nuts out there. The 2 local VW dealerships where we placed the ID4 reservations each promised to honor MSRP, but who knows what OTD pricing will look like. One of them said she “couldn’t” give anything more in writing than the assurance that MSRP would be honored. Clearly, I’m new to all of this. Not sure whether that’s a red flag, but I figure I’ll cross that bridge when, if ever, I come to it.
If total cost includes the $7500, your best bet is to call around for Mach-E Selects or Premium RWD.
Very hard to get them at MSRP but a $45k Select with a $5k blessing and then $7500 back puts you where you need to be.
The other is the Leaf… haven’t shopped one in a while but those might be easier to get than Mach-Es.
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Don’t forget Sales Tax. Leasing the 4xE had a sales tax advantage on resale over buying
Get a base 2023 BMW 330e. If you pick it up before 1 Jan 2023, it will qualify for $5,836 (not the full $7,500, because the battery is only 12.5kwh).
BMW even advertise it on their website. 330e, 330e xDrive Plug-In Hybrid Electric Sports Sedan | BMW USA
I picked one up a 2 weeks ago at 6% under msrp. The total cost pre-tax credit should be around 45k. After tax credit it should be under 40k.
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Galpin VW and Glendale VW are showing one or two 2023 ID.4’s in stock. Glendale is showing six 2022 ID.4’s in stock, most with MSRP below 50k. No Federal tax credits on the 2022 models, though.
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A 2022 would defeat the purpose. Both of those dealerships have been marking up cancelled 2023s min $5k from what I’ve seen (their inventory pages seem to reflect that as well).
In terms of availability…
Mach-E Selects, ID.4 2023s, lower end Ford Lightnings.
These were not high demand trims anyhow and honestly resale value is getting worse for them with the used car market collapsing.
FYI my Florida VW dealer had multiple 2023 ID4s at MSRP. I helped them sell one by posting photos of one on FB after my test drive (I’ve declined more cars from them than bought lol)… so contact a few out of state.
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The thought of a BMW hadn’t crossed my mind, both because of the associated luxury and I’d limited my search to vehicles that got the full $7,500. I’m still not sure I’d be able to justify buying a Beamer hah. But certainly will consider.
How did you manage 6% under MSRP? What are your thoughts on it now that you’ve got one?
Like you, I’ve been looking at eligible vehicles all year, even since I bought my Outback this past summer. The juice unfortunately has not been worth the squeeze. Which is why I decided to wash-sell some stock that is down but I’m planning to keep for the duration, just to generate the tax losses. Not to say you might not luck into one, but as mentioned there are lots of people doing the same. The less expensive stuff is gone or marked-up (and won’t be come February). Even at MSRP or slightly under, an X5e / 330e / S60 T8 is more than I want to spend, and not something I’m certain I want to own.
Your idea of fishing the VW dealers isn’t a bad one, and you might have more luck out of state since there are still CVRP/CVAP people chasing CA cars (they have to buy here to claim those rebates).
The hot, wet insanity is almost over, right about the time the most generous version of the tax credit turns into a pumpkin.
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