After getting beat up in my Model 3 I am just about ready to trade it in for a 2021 or 22 RX350. That or a certified loaded Highlander.
TTL would be boiler plate (and still a big ?), the other two arenât.
Why donât you reach out to this fine 
dealer and get a quote for an actual in stock unit based on this ad, see what the real numbers look like, and let us know whether itâs a good deal or not?
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I hear you, already getting the run around. But i mean that has been my experience with leasing for over a decade - the dealerships almost never want to honor the advertised deal regardless of brand. Hasnt stopped me from getting some great lease deals over the years.
Why not just start by putting together a target deal and asking them a Yes/No question?
Starting from an ambiguous-yet-bad deal and trying to negotiate that into a good deal seems like a waste of time.
Any dealer will honor what you posted because they can add anything under those terms. Theyâll throw in a Kitkat from the vending machine for $6999 (amortized, not residualized) and itâs covered under Sentence #2
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Because every advertised deal has this is the fine print:
Which leaves out thousands from the actual deal cost. You can do much better using data points here and making offers.
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You will probably find you cannot get enough discount on either one to justify vs buying a new one at todays discounts
NTM used car loan APRs are always higher than new cars.
Make sure to tell them youâre thinking about joining the PGA!
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Ive never had a dealer not able to beat the advertised deal.
The problem is most people look at that deal and think it says $599/mo with $3999 due at signing and then get mad the dealer wont honor a deal that isnât being advertised.
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My trade is free and clear. My trade is my negotiation. Just say no to car loans! lol
The TX isnât a hackable car this month. Buy/finance it or lease something else based on actual deals in the Marketplace
Anything else is just a giant waste of your time TBH.
You want to maximize the value of your trade regardless of whether youâre buying used or new. So thatâs neither here nor there. The point about lack of sufficient discounts still stands.
It might sound dumb to experienced hackers but my strategy has always been to look at the advertised deal (like $599/mo and $3999 down) and stubbornly stick to that as my ideal terms all said and done, walk out if they start messing about. This has worked a few times for me to get excellent lease deals on less desirable cars for example with Hyundai, Buick, Honda, and GM. Have never tried with Lexus though. I think the issue here is that the TX is still very new and in demand.
That isnât what the advertised deal is though
This is a terrible strategy TBH.
All youâre doing is accepting advertised deals that have so much bloat that they can roll in all the taxes and fees from the fine print and still be ahead.
I mean, it is if you donât click and read the fine print and just push for the deal at face value. Like I said, being stubborn is key. It has worked for me numerous times.
The broker above offered you a better deal that the advertised and his actually includes all the fees.
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I know, but thatâs CA. I would grab it if that same deal is possible in GA.
âIt is as long as you pretend it is something it isnâtâ
If youre going to chase after a made up deal that doesnât exist, why not make up something good?
Better yet, actually work out what a strong target deal really is and chase that.
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Good point, I guess that would net a better deal. But at least with the advertised deal I am starting with something that has already been propagated by the manufacturer so I can inquire to all the dealerships quickly without stepping foot in the building. Usually these are âgood enoughâ to latch onto.
What a colossal waste of time.
Put together an actual target deal, make them an unambiguoid, immediately actionable offer, and only go into the building to take delivery once itâs been agreed to in writing.
All youâre suggesting doing is beating around the bush, pretending you canât read an ad, to play games with the dealer in hopes they throw you a mediocre bone. Youâd save time and money by forgetting the games.
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