Someone please read this (Page 3) and tell me if I’m dumb for saying that Toyotas are more Reliable than New Alfa Romeo? Cause this person is dead set that CR and JDPower reliability data is biased and incorrect?
Another unpleasant truth that must be true if the statement “Obviously Toyotas (minus the ONE BMW BASED CAR the Supra), Hyundais, Kias (who tend to be in the tops) are more reliable since they dont employ the newest of technologies like BMWs, Audis, Porches” is true:
Alfa does not use the latest tech. If it worked for Toyota, Et al, it will probably work for Alfa. Because it isn’t a brand, it is a development concept.
Another truth: None of the magazines, CR included have reliability statistics for Alfa. They have projections based on traditional FCA and Alfa reliability, which does make sense…but given the above true statements of Alfa not using existing FCA or Alfa technologies, also by creating brand new factories with new assembly systems, and new employees…the reasoning doesn’t apply.
Now if you want to give low projected reliability due to the truth of new factories with new equipment and new employees, learning new skills/procedures cause production problems…Ok. That is logical and would seem true given the other accepted truths.
It is also logical that those issues will be worked out in a couple of years when the employees are experienced with the equipment, which has happened…so far not too many complaints on the 2019’s.
We will see what CR says when they get enough statistics…but you go right ahead thinking whatever you want for whatever reason you want.
Want to talk about how Alfa needs to get a better average dealer experience…more like Toyota and especially Lexus…ok…you have a valid point. Very valid. Great probably.
Reliability? They all fall within a similar statistical variation if you are talking about a 2019 vehicle.
Now getting that problem fixed right the first time…there…there we have a problem unfortunately, in pretty much every brand except Toyota/Lexus. Which still has issues. Just try to get a problem repaired that doesn’t have a TSB (Technical Service Bulliten) issues for it already."