A lease deal that is too good to be true

So i have been pricing up some new leases….if a lease is just too good to be true does that mean the “deal” is full of red flags??

I ask because I received really good numbers on a lease and when I shopped it around I was told that there is no way that deal can be done, that maybe they didnt include taxes and or other fees in the number meanwhile I know they did because I asked that they do a true 0 out of pocket and just a monthly number. What I did see was a sky high selling price at the end of lease.

Now does it matter if the selling price at the end of the lease is astronomically high even though I have no plans to buyout the lease at the end .

Are there any implications to this scenario??

The residual value is set by the bank, not the dealer.

A different residual value means you’re either getting bad information or they’re using a different bank. Which of the two is it?

So they were using a credit union where they were able to get the number much lower but the selling price at the end of lease was much much higher.

That in itself isn’t a bad thing if you don’t plan on buying out. Gotta make sure it’s not a weird balloon loan, there aren’t odd restrictions, etc.

Weird balloon loan?

So i would be responsible for a 30k payment?

How did your target lease payment/DAS calculations compare?

Wouldn’t be the first time I have seen a dealer offer a financing option that looked like a lease but was actually a balloon loan. Just have to verify everything checks out.

How could I tell if its a balloon loan ?

His post indicates BMW and they have their balloon like products in different states…BMW Select and BMW Owner’s Choice.

So i shopped it at a handful of dealerships and knew I wanted to pay somewhere in mid 400s ..this is a 42 k ish car…..when I got a text from a local dealership they said 0 money and 450 a month so I thoight let me shop it. The next dealer came in better at about 15 less per month so I was feeling confident in my monthly figures but then when I saw the selling price at the end of the lease I sort of questioned it…

Sorry sorry its not bmw. I clicked that by accident. Disregard that.

People genuinely are here to help and you’ve been on here going on 8 years now so I assume you have a good idea how this works…with that being said any reason to not give us a little more context or mystery car information in order to help you?

Sure…I can provide as much info as you need so I can get an understanding

I’m no lease hacker professional by any means, I watch what prices are out tbere and take time and research but its that last and final worksheet that im given that gets me nervous, so I backed out last minute which I didnt do last time I leased a handful of years ago.

Learn how to use this to put your own offers together instead of just collecting quotes…will save you a lot of $.

It’s rare to see credit union deals here in general outside of one or two dealers / brokers that utilize them, even more rare in Florida. If it isn’t clear, this is just my observations & not based in hard data.

Let’s start with what make & model your targeting?

A sky high RV isn’t bad in of itself as already mentioned before however a credit union or non-captive lessor makes money by lending more than maybe a captive bank who exists to work in conjunction with the automaker to drive sales.

Many times a non-captive lender will couple a sky high rv with a sky high mf and include incentives to make the numbers work for them.

What numbers is the captive lessor providing for this vehicle from your research ( mf, rv, incentives ) and what does the comparison look like from the credit union proposal ( mf, rv, incentives ) ?

I tried the calculator…I just cant seem to get every number i need to finish off the final results and that does get frustrating…

Sometimes though ill use someone else’s calculator and change some numbers around..

For instance when I got the numbers I got i knew there wasnt an easy way to get it to work but then I just figured im paying nearly 1% of the msrp so I was cool with that but most will disagree especially those who know how to construct a lease hacker calculator

Oh 1%! Screw the calculator! Just sign it! You are certainly getting a deal. I just don’t know the car, MSRP, discount, rebates, MF or RV. But it’s fine.

Can you post the worksheet w/o your personal info and the car VIN redacted?

It’s going to be very difficult for anyone to help you if you don’t provide concrete information.

You have been here way too long for this

Dear Lord just tell us the make and model, or upload a picture of the dealer proposal