Question - any pricing leverage on new 911’s? Are they selling at MSRP? Any dealers going lower? Also, for used but new 911’s - how come I am seeing them listed over their sticker price?
Apologies if this is obvious - I am a newb to the 911 world and trying to not get taken advantage of.
Typically 911 are purchase targets and not leases. They lease terribly despite maintaining their value extremely well. If you’d like to buy one pick a popular spec so you have an easier time selling it.
New ones can be had at MSRP if you find a good dealer and are patient to get an allocation. A lot will depend on which trim level you want. Keep in mind that the 911 is consistently the top vehicle for resale value year after year.
We ordered one in 2022 from our local dealer that doesn’t charge over MSRP. We traded the car in two years later for what we paid for it. I like to say it was the most expensive car I ever purchased, but the least expensive one I’ve ever owned.
It’s an incredible vehicle, but be warned, it’ll ruin other sports cars for you.
MSRP is a deal in the current market. A lot of dealers are asking $10k over for the base Carreras, and scales up from there for GTS, Targa, GT models, etc.
Nope, nada. Best you find a local dealer and work the relationship there. Some dealers won’t sell 911s out of state, or out of their region.
I’ve known my out-of-state Porsche salesguy for 12 years, and he’ll sell me a base 911 at MSRP, but there’ll be a couple of hard-adds since I’m out of state. It is what it is; pay to play.
Oh, and used are $$$ because you get instant gratification. Waiting for an allocation and delivery is….
I’ve seen exactly one new 911 being sold at a discount since 2020. But 99.999% of all 911s are sold at MSRP or above. 911s especially the GT and Targas are basically the Rolex Daytona/ Hermes Bags of the car market even more so than the G wagons. The MSRP is not anywhere close to the real world market price especially for top tier ones like the GT3/ GT3RS/Targa.
Porsches have historically retained their value. Current used cars are retaining their value very well in part due to the constant price increases.
MSRP without stupid mandatory purchases that you may not want (watch, tinting, ppf, prepaid maintenance plans etc) is the goal. Many dealers may have geographic restraints on where they will sell to. I have a dealer locally that will do that but have no interest in paying 150k for an optioned base car or 175k for a S….its slowly getting into the used supercar price ranges.
That’s what I’ve been told. I’ve owned BMW M cars, a Lexus RC-F, and Mercedes AMG’s and I’ve always been told they don’t hold a candle to the 911. What is it, specifically, that makes the 911 the ultimate sports car?
For me, it was the handling and how much the car communicates with you. Whether it’s on a city street, a back road, or a track day, I felt confident with how the car was going to react to my inputs. Comfortable enough for a daily driver, and a track weapon when you want one, there’s really nothing else like it.
I also loved the understated design. You see a 911 and you know it’s a 911, no matter what year it is. Some other cars are flashier, but in 20 years, your 911 will still look just as good as it does now, and it will never feel “dated”. I’ve had several BMW M cars, and even the hooligan that is the Jaguar F-type SVR, they were all fun, but the 911 is still my favorite.
From an engineering prospective the 911 has one of the most rear heavy bias out of any vehicle. This means the front end is light and can transmit tons of feedback through the wheel. The steering ratio doesn’t have to be crazy quick (think Ferrari 812) because it is naturally light enough.
While there is not a lot of inventory, there is inventory, more than ever in the last few years, and getting a deal at sticker is easily possible.
With base prices going ballistic, 150k for a mildly optioned 992.2 base, I think you will see more of the more base trims stack up for inventory, as the value prop is simply off. I could be wrong, but other people who have worked for the brand for a long time seem to agree.
And also anecdotally it seems allocations are much easier to acquire. Though Porsche and its dealers don’t want folks to perceive this.
I think a lot of 911 stuff is circular/self fulfilling due to low production which props up used prices and is likely more prone to quicker corrections than many think.