I agree entirely with Max, as a stop-gap measure a one-off 18-month lease with a super high residual is great, but you have to consider unless you’re getting that dispo comped at the end of the lease, that’s an additional $28/month you have to add to your effective lease total.
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I wonder what these Pathfinder leases would look like with one-pay and MSD.
Granted it would almost be academic, because finding an FI manager willing to click those extra clicks is the real unicorn.
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How good is the deal do you have a post on your numbers? Also Why only 18 months , Aren’t you back to looking for another vehicle after 18 months then ?
We had an atlas and it was very roomy for a 3 row suv.
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@aronchi has a qx80 at a little over 10k off, if it’s something your considering. (2022 model)
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I second this. We are on our third Mazda CX9 GT. They lease pretty well. Not the largest but a great bang for your buck. And they are sporty but are on the luxury side as well. I know last month the MF was basically zero. But if you need 7 pass then it won’t work.
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It’s not really an owners group as opposed to a trouble shooting/ whine group as like you the vase majority would never have sought it out until they found an issue.
The vast majority of owner of new cars have had zero issues in the first 3 years of ownership. I’m another here who’s had zero issues with a 2020 XC90 in 32 months.
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+1 on '19 XC90 loaner I leased with 6k miles on it.
A year ago I got an 8 seater Nissan Armada. I also have a 2011 Armada. Both are great, obviously the 2022 rides better, has more power and the updated technology is amazing. I also got it $1,000 below MSRP, dealer loaner probably,
with 1,500 miles. I highly recommend the Armada.
Is this hackable or it turns into like a 5.5 year score?
Been following along the last few weeks, but haven’t noticed anything i30 specific.
What is “i30”? If you are asking about Defender 130, then financing. All leases suck now.
I’m of the opinion that vehicle prices will drop hard starting this upcoming year and financing anything right now unless a very positive equity lease end is playing with fire.
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Vehicles are always depreciating assets. The OP question was about value.
You won’t have any equity at lease end, as before 2020.
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Except for the prior 18 months, which is why those who had previous excellent hacks are now basically being forced to buy leases out. These last 18 months have certainly been a strange time. The Fed with all of their policy mistakes have created this, now they’re taking the excess out, and since all of their actions have a lag effect, now the excess is being bled out of the system. The only car that occasionally leases here that will hold around or above MSRP for the next 3-6 months imo is the new RRS, and even that facade will wear off by summer the latest, imo.
Value is perceived differently by people. We did both perceive it in the Defender as I have been playing with builds on those for the last 2 weeks, but personally, I find zero value in financing anything, especially right now as cars are going to get slaughtered in 2023… IMO, of course.
CPO Acura MDX
I picked up a 2019 with 25k mikes a couple of months back.
Under 600 a month for the next couple years is not a bad deal imo. 2.63%
The clear winner on resale value and fuel economy is the 2023 Toyota Sienna. Since all of these are hybrids, they get 35 miles per gallon (All wheel drive) or 36 mpg (FWD). That’s about half the fuel cost of most of those mentioned. There is more. Should you be able to land one of these for MSRP, (not always easy, as they are very sought after), then check the resale value. If you keep it 2 years or less, in great condition, you may easily find, like other Sienna buyers, it has not depreciated at all. My 2023 Sienna is worth much more than I paid at MSRP with 4000 miles. Caveat: Its a little hard to crawl into the second or third row if you are large and not very young. Kids and adults under 250 pounds (or 6 feet tall) should not have a problem. A bonus is you wont pay for maintenance for 2 years, those are on Toyota. (Unless you drive over 24,000 miles in 2 years).
I bought one 3 weeks ago (2023 Sienna XLE AWD 7 passenger), and Im especially pleased at how it handled in this recent snow storm. I drove 250 miles in snow, ice, blowing snow, and never spun a wheel. There were at least 12 other cars and trucks slid off the road on the way.
If you expect a lot of horsepower, or using it for towing heavy loads, dont get the Sienna.
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It’s not an SUV though.
It’s also has minimal luxuries. I had to drive my brother’s new 2022 hybrid for a full week this last summer while I babysat his kids. It was slow, noisy, had crappy audio, and the safety systems felt like they belonged in a car 10 years ago. I had a Telluride at the time and when I returned to that it felt like a silent luxury cruiser.
It’s why I rented a fully loaded Polestar 2 for a week this Christmas trip when I visited my brother again. I refused to drive the Sienna… lol.
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What was the purchase price?
Sienna is a great vehicle. I own a 2023. I drive a lot so it’s the perfect vehicle. Comfortable and great gas mileage. Perfect for my boys, dog, and wife on long trips.
But I agree with @voxel. When I drive my wife’s Honda Pilot Elite, it feels like I am driving an actual vehicle not a golf cart. But I’ll sacrifice for the 36mpg.
Op. I’d wait the 6 months out.
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Value is value. I think Defender is a better value than the same class 7-seaters from MB, BMW, Volvo, etc. You can’t flip it and make $10k on it now, but financing and selling after 3 year will probably cost less than the mentioned above.