Why do mods allow certain brokers to do and say whatever they please? Same clown sent me toxic DM. Sad stuff
Interestingly, one of the easiest ways for the manufacturers to still move these cars with the least pain will be⌠leasing!
This is critically important to remember:
On cars with a residual value of 50% or above with a relatively low money factor, if the MSRP of a car is raised by $5,000, it would take half of that or less (the higher the RV is) to bring the lease price back to the same amount. So a $5,000 bump in in MSRP could be offset by a $2,500 rebate.
Obviously, this is extremely complex, and if the residual is much lower than 50% it doesnât work, and if the money factor is insanely high, it also doesnât work as well, but generally speaking, it does stand that if the RV is 50% or greater, a $5,000 increase in MSRP wonât require a $5,000 rebate to offset the change in lease price unless the money factor is just insane.
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No it wonât. If the tariff remains in place the price will likely increase by some amount but it will likely be less than 25%
Dealers already trying to screw us.
âThank you for your inquiry to * concerning your interest in our 2024 . My name is R and I am the Sales Manager here at *. This car is currently available and ready for delivery! We are currently evaluating our pricing structure with the oncoming tariffs and will get back to you soon with the lease quote you requestedâ
For note day before pricing showed discount then my friend didnât inquire fast enough pricing was removed an hour after the announcement.
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Well it shouldnât be an increase of 25% on MSRPâŚit will be 25% on whatever declared value /âcostâ the vehicle might have at customs. So overall something less than 25% and if any US content that should be subtracted out too.
The $RV canât increase just because of a higher MSRP on most cars, so the %RV comes down.
For example letâs say when the f01 740i came out the expected value of a 3yr old lease return was $40,000. Now FS can slap a 50% RV on it if the decision is made to slap a $80m sticker on it. Or 40% on $100K. But it canât slap a 50% RV on a $100K sticker.
What a joke. The car is currently available and ready for deliveryâŚso then what do the oncoming tariffs have to do with the price of that specific vehicle? Scumbags
Itâs a 2024 
. Not even a 2025.
So when are they going to bump the residuals for Porsches back up to the 90 percent range? Maybe a 91.1% residual? Asking for a friend.
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I guess you donât understand what the word âmaybeâ means in my post. You are correct that it will âlikelyâ be less than 25%. The point of the post is that used Porsche 911 costs are âlikelyâ to increase as well.
Maybe they will increase by 100% , who knows. The point is donât infer 25% price increase just bc the tariff is 25
I agree with you, if the RVâs decrease a lot, obviously this doesnât work, but that depends on how long term these tariffs are and how leasing banks handle them.
We could actually see a time where leasing may make the most senes for a little while, who knows, just a thought I was sharing!
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Supply and demand. 
Same as the gas station raising prices.
Itâs not whatâs in the tanks now. Itâs what itâll cost to replace whatâs in the tanks.
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No way for anyone to know. Banking and Finance never share this information with anyone ahead of time at any dealership level.
Highly doubt it. Domestics are already having a tough time selling their cars, increasing price is just going to end the suffering faster.
In the short term, no but as more information comes out on how the tariffs will be applied on parts and components, then they will gradually change. But its not easy work as a car may have as little as 3% components to 70% imported. Thus how much will this effect the total MSRP of a car will take a while for manufacturers to decide.*
Thatâs the question most of us have. Remember Tariff related price increase will come from the manufacturer which could take days to months. Consumers will be leasing from dealerships which may (and as reported some already are) will be taking advantage of the hype to pull back discounts and rush consumers.
I love how the most discussed car on this topic is a 911 lol
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Again, you miss the point of the post. The price of a new 911 is probably going to go up due to tariffs. That will also likely drive up the cost of a used 911. Pick any number you want.
Well sure, no one is saying prices wonât change or will decrease. Yes there will likely be price increases it just is unclear how much
And yes it is funny the discussion centers around 911 which is prob one of the most propped up markets currently.
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How is the 911 market âpropped upâ now? âPropped upâ in that instance would mean supported by Porsche because it would need help moving units and did so with incentives, price drops and dealer support on the backend. Insane consumer demand and paying over sticker isnât âpropped upâ in this instance.
Not quite sure what you mean.
Domestic cars will also increase in price since auto parts will be tariffed and OEMs are not going to leave money on the table. They have a fiduciary duty to stockholders to profit as much as possible. Plus you donât have to go far back to see what happens to domestic prices when foreign goods are taxed. When Trump tariffed incoming washing machines, washing machines made domestically increased in price and drying machines, which were not tariffed, also increased in price since there were often sold side-by-side.
But yes, I agree that the average American is tapped out and these extra tariffs on everything from consumers electronics to autos are now shooting them in the back after pushing them off a cliff.
We are anticipating a 10%-15% increase in MSRP unless PCNA helps.
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