2024 Subaru Legacy Limited. What’s an “Upfront Fee”?

Sorry, when I did an internet search for the Edmunds forum for the Legacy, one of the search results was for the Outback (so I gave the wrong RV). 60% is correct.

At any rate… It looks like the Edmunds mod is as confused about the weird fees as are you.

I know you don’t want to pay for something extra, but might you end up effectively paying for it w/ all the time you’re wasting w/ this dealership? The dealership seems to be giving clear signs (and multiple signs) that something is off.

And, no offense, but if your husband is going to be picky about option packages and color, I hope he is doing some of this work and it’s not just all falling on you…

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Woof :-1:t2::-1:t2:

They should be able to at least discount to invoice (if not deeper), otherwise just get VIP. You can do better than $0 off

Also this is probably a better purchase candidate than lease. This particular one is a pass.

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The upfront fees are just the doc fee, electronic filing fee and tire fees paid upfront. Not a big deal.

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You’re right about all of that!! My husband did do the initial correspondence which went on for days going nowhere. He was quite busy at work, so asked them to email all the info. They initially said they could get that done and deliver the car, then kept coming back w/ answers like, they couldn’t give all the numbers so when could he come in to talk about it? He ended up corresponding w/ 3 people, only at one point to get only some of the info he asked for. Then had to go on a work trip. If it was up to him, he’d pay gobs more just to end it & have a car, but I will go to battle when they start jacking around w/ us. So I took it on.

You are totally correct too in the amount of time it’s taking out of my life, so thank you for that reminder as I won’t worry about the little bits! I am about to move on though if they don’t come down in price more than 5% though.

And BTW, I freaking LOVE paranoidgarliclover!!

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Thank you so much!! I’ll investigate about the VIP and Loyalty coupon. So far we were told the loyalty coupon was only given if you turn in a previous lease and sign the next lease agreement. We sold our last leased Subaru to the dealer for $4K profit @ the end of July (just before the lease was up), so they said it didn’t count.

And I’m having trouble finding what the invoice is on this vehicle, though I’m certain I just don’t know where to look.

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There are CA Subaru brokers that are active here, have you contacted them?

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That deal is horrible.

I have a few Limited’s in stock in Socal if you want a quote

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Just email SOA this weekend with the prior information and VIN and request a loyalty coupon. It they issue it any dealer should accept it.

Roughly $2k in markup with $625 in holdback. VIP will cost you a $500 donation to an eligible charity

Definitely reach out to @Jeff_BeachCitiesAuto and @rubbergash and check the marketplace. Worst cast with VIP you can order exactly what you want and wait for it.

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Paying 575/mo plus fees to rent a $33k car makes no sense. Finance it.

In California (zip 93933 - on central coast near Monterey) tax 9.25%
This Legacy Limited has nothing added to it (no moon roof, etc):

MSRP 31,945 + dest fee 1,090 = $33,035
MF 0.00131
RV 60%
Excellent credit rating
36/10K

Our offer:
$29,070.80 (12% off)
Drive-offs only (including acquisition fee), no down payment
=$350/mo (tax incl). (Leasackr score 8)

We leased our last Subaru through them & are waiting to hear back from SOA if we can get a $500 Loyalty Discount (we had ordered this car 4 months prior to our lease-end but car was delayed in arriving so there was a gap in leases). If so, it looks like the monthly would be ~$340

Sales Mgr yesterday didn’t sound sad about our offer & asked if we’d sign last night. I said yes if he could do that deal, and we could pick the car up. He said he’d check w/ his boss and call back. Still haven’t heard from him (I seem to have to always call him back so far).

Reasonable offer or are we cutting too deep?

We’ll go to -11% if -12% is really asking too much, but that’s it. We’re not in a big hurry, but we’re coming on 2 wks since car arrived & dealership sucks to deal with. We’ll be cutting bait & movin’ on if we don’t sign by tomorrow. Just need to find out about Loylalty $ (I don’t trust this dealer to be honest about our eligibility).

Thanks all!

You can call Subaru yourself and request the loyalty certificate no need to wonder if the dealer being honest about it

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What is this dollar amount?

@max_g
Drive-offs should be ~$1500. The DMV fee was less $ when he offered 5% off than when he sent his original offer through w/ $0 off. Don’t know why, but i wouldn’t complain if it was even lower w/ -12%

1st mo: $350
License Fee: 462 (amount @ 5% off MSRP)
CA tire fee: 8.75
Doc fee 85
Electronic filing: 29
Acquisition: 595

And @drdvrgs, I did reach out to SOA 2 nights ago. They took my info & said I’d get a call in 2 days. I have not heard, so will call them tomorrow morning.

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Is your % off in line with what you’re seeing in Marketplace and Share Deals & Tips for a buyrate deal?

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I haven’t seen anything posted recently for a Limited.

What about other trims?

Sorry, I meant to say Legacy. This is a Limited trim, but the vast majority I’ve seen for sale all have the moon roof/nav package added on to it. (It does not appear that this one is very popular.) Though I don’t even see those in Marketplace or the Deals section. They’re mostly for other models.

No idea if this has the moonroof package or not, and I know nothing about this broker:

I suspect you might be asking for too much off, but if you can wait to see what they say…

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Hopefully this helps others in the future:

The dealer accepted my proposal of 12% off MSRP (and the actual MF, not their original .00050 markup). So looks like that’s a possibility (or close to it) for others trying to work a better deal than their original @ MSRP or 5% off. We also got a $500 Loyalty Coupon from Subaru (I called Subaru directly, and she said it worked if your last lease was through Subaru, so Chase Bank, and the new one was as well).

I asked for the dealer to send the contract by that afternoon so we could look it over to help speed things up when we picked the car up that night (and also so I could see it in writing before bringing in the Loyatly Coupon). He only sent part of a screen shot, said they were busy that night, and could send the rest in the morning so we didn’t have to wait & we could p/u then.

Next morning, we got a text saying that they canceled the deal & “were moving in a different direction”. When I spoke to them, the reasons kept changing & they were tripping over their made-up excuses as I was able to remind them of the actual chain of events as they occurred. (One of the reasons being that us asking for the numbers to be sent was too much work because everyone else comes in to discuss them, so I countered w/: what did you do during Covid?)

LESSON LEARNED!! In the future, if a dealer is remotely shady about sending the numbers, delaying responses, acting like the add-ons are required (which we knew they are not), etc, MOVE ON! And if they accept a good offer (for us), we’re walking in the door 20 minutes later before they take it back. I have not experienced anyone accepting a deal then going back on it. Also, when I offered the -12%, he said it looked like that’d work, but only if we gave them perfect reviews when we got the survey from Subaru. Wow, I know! How about you actually offer great service instead of making it part of your negotiating tool?!

At the end of the day, I’m certain they sold the vehicle (that we ordered in April) to someone else that night because it has yet to be on their website for sale.

And now the search continues. Sheesh!

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Probably not a bad idea, esp when it’s an aggressive offer.

Hope you are able to find the car you want at the price you want!