I drove one yesterday and, outside of the decent hybrid I4, was thoroughly impressed! The screen situation is really wild.
Has anyone picked one of these up?
The Black Label free car washes anytime gimmick seemed interesting too.
I drove one yesterday and, outside of the decent hybrid I4, was thoroughly impressed! The screen situation is really wild.
Has anyone picked one of these up?
The Black Label free car washes anytime gimmick seemed interesting too.
They’re definitely really good looking. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t a painful lease though. Lincoln historically has never leased all that well.
I’ve always liked (the look of) several Lincoln models, but they lease like crap. I loved the MKX when it was first released. Big chrome rims ha, nice enough interior, and fun to drive (surprisingly quick). Still a good looking vehicle today.
Interior is pretty wild - I like it
I sort of figured.
Crap lease and this would be a disaster to own because of the how the model has depreciated in the past generations.
The Revel audio, imo, was better than Burmester 3D and on par with the B&W.
Yep. Lincoln also likes to have silly issues (i.e. electrical) IIRC. It would obviously be more of a headache than anything, with the full warranty.
I am once again calling for steering wheels to be made from normal shapes.
Make steering wheels wheels again!!!
Really. I’ve usually had good things to say about the Burm system, other than its still difficult to justify the price (although its a must for resale on certain cars). I only have the Bose in my Macan but I found that to perform surprisingly well (remembering that it is Bose). Bose is usually OK, but I also know systems can really vary as well.
That wheel is definitely an odd shape. Flat bottom steering wheels are typically my preferred.
I don’t mean to discuss whether xenophobia has any merit, but from a purely financial/sterile lens of a car purchase, buyers could leverage the China-made element when trying to score a deal. The 2024+ Nautilus is manufactured in China.
The USA used to get Volvo S60 and XC60 from Chengdu, China. This was before the vehicle import tariff on China-manufactured cars went into effect. Subsequently, Volvo switched to Europe to source USA-market vehicles.
Anyway, my point is many Americans were put off on this whole Made in China thing. Speaking with some Volvo reps, they were definitely losing customers when they realized the car was “made by the Chinese.” To win over some buyers, the dealership would then drop pricing to meet the expectation that China meant Cheaper.
Personally, when I hunted for my XC60, I targeted VIN’s that started with LV; knowing those Volvos were the ones made in China. 18% off MSRP pre-covid just because I found the Chinese lot anchor nobody else would pay a fair price for. So I didn’t pay a fair price either to take it off their hands.
Being said, I don’t actually want people to be Xenophobic. But for the sake of scoring a cheaper car, it is a card to play in the endless struggle to whack net pricing.
Interesting topic nonetheless.
I feel Lincoln is one of those brands where the people hang onto the American Dream/American made sort of nostalgia… much as we would (unsurprisingly) see in Ford as well. I would agree that many of those buyers will really have an issue with the vehicles coming from China.
Get a workout in while driving? Where do I sign.
My in-laws have an MKX (gen after the one pictured here) and an MKT. I hate how the MKX drives, but like how it looks. I hate how the MKT looks, but like how it drives.
Ha. Well that is almost like comparing a crossover/suv to a large sedan/wagon… I’ve never driven an MKT but I also hate the looks.
Is the MKX AWD or FWD? That may make a bit of difference. I’ve only driven the AWD version. It was also brand new at the time, so that could have something to do with it as well. I did pick a 2008 MKX as a beater, last year or the year before. I ended up selling it after a few months after I had realized it maybe wasn’t the wisest vehicle choice. Also drove it for free, so that didn’t hurt either.
It also makes me wonder what happened with the Edge. For the first several years, they seemed to sell quite well (they were prevalent on the road). Now I almost never see them unless its in a rental lot.
Remaining’23 should be able to get some solid deals as @holeydonut mentioned
Both Lincoln and Cadillac (and Buick) have been selling more units in China than the US for some time now, so if Americans don’t like it they would just pull out of the US and become a China-only brand.
Buick essentially died in the US when the sedan market shifted. Sad to see, as they made some nice cars in their prime.
The Envista is the highest conquesting car in all of GM’s lineup. They can’t build them fast enough. I like Buick in general, so I hope they don’t pull out of the US
Unfortunately that isn’t saying much anymore; the sedans don’t sell like they used to.
I agree though. I hope Buick has some life left in her.