I want to know what clique-kool-aid the Trusteds keep drinking where they follow in their collective footsteps to keep parroting that every ICE lease brought up on this site is terrible.
What is terrible is the agenda they keep pushing in every ICE thread on LH. Trism and Max usually take the lead, talking about how the deal isn’t a unicorn so it’s a bad deal. “You can get two unicorn 5 series for the price of this lease tee hee giggle giggle”. Such smugness from those that are supposed to be trusted.
The other often parroted oddball-advice is is say financing is better with zero data to prove that position. To get the effective monthly to beat the lease… you’d have to own this vehicle for almost 60 months if financed at VW’s APR on a 5 year loan. Plus your monthly payments would be massive compared to the lease.
Of course someone saves money if they drive a financed vehicle for 60s+ months. Or to get into a CPO. Like no sh!t. Driving a used car saves money versus new. But this is a leasing forum about new cars. What gives? Why are these trusted lease hackers if they simply want people to drive used cars as the solution?
I thought this forum was to educate people on leases and help them get into leases on new cars. Instead these “trusteds” just judge the hell out of people for wanting to lease a particular car.
You’re spot on… this lease is pretty good for a new '23 Arteon. But the Arteon isn’t a cheap car to get for a $52k MSRP even with discounts. A loan on this car new car isn’t much of a better proposition than leasing it. Since the drag is caused by the car’s massive depreciation, not the way the financing structure works. Having the title in the borrower’s name with a big lien on it still exposes the person to the depreciation.
If someone really likes the Arteon since they don’t like EVs, this deal isn’t terrible.