2019 XC40 R Design Lease

A dealer is offering me the following lease deal. Can you comment if it is good or bad?

Zip code: 90230
Car: XC40 R Design, AWD, Premium Package, Vision Package, Heated Front Seats & Heated Steering Wheel, Metallic Paint, Laminated Panoramic Moonroof, 20" 5-Double Spoke Matte Black Alloy Wheels)
MSRP: $44,590
Incentives: $6590
Residual %: 53%
MF: 0.00216
Lease: 36 month, 10K miles
Acquisition fee: $995
Document fee: $85
Down payment: First lease payment + fees

Monthly: $565 (before tax)

Additional notes:
A similar configuration on volvocars.com shows a lease of $461 and $4,461 due at signing, so $572 before tax.

Looks like a horrible deal.

What is the selling price?

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Selling price is $38,000 (MSRP - incentive).

Is it horrible because MF is high or residual is low or both? What would you expect these numbers to be?

It’s horrible because they’re charging you full sticker price and giving no discount.

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Maybe I’m missing something. Isn’t the selling price shows the discount?

No, they’re charging you full MSRP. The incentives/rebates are from the manufacture and represent a $0 dealer discount.

When you search through the threads here and you see people talking about “pre-incentive discounts”, this is what discount the dealer is offering. On volvos, it’s often in the 10-12% range for an aggressive deal (although the XC40s aren’t as high of discounts usually).

You want to negotiate a dealer discount AND incentives/rebates. Your price here is $3000-4000 more than a good deal.

If you deduct the MSRP minus the incentives in your post gives you the selling price the dealer is giving you which does not include any dealer discount. You should check that.

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I realize the confusion I created. Volvo offered incentives are $2500 (500 + 1000 + 1000). See https://www.culvercityvolvo.com/new/Volvo/2019-Volvo-XC40-for-sale-culver-city-ca-0877c41d0a0e0a170104343bf2fc2f10.htm

$6590 - $2500 = $4090 is additional discount. This is my assumption but I can ask them.

Those $2500 in rebates listed on their website are not accurate. You need to find out what the incentives/rebates included in the quote actually are.

$1000 lease and $1000 military are only applicable to purchases. They’re $500 each on a lease, etc. There’s a $500 labor day incentive not captured.

Who are you dealing with at Culver City? If it isn’t Tony, you need to change that.

The sales person is not Tony. I’ll ask them the break down of $6590. Thanks for your help so far.

Also, I noticed you posted on edmunds asking for a deal review. Edmunds is great for getting current rv/mf/incentive information, but their criteria for what is a good deal is much more expensive than what many here would consider a good deal.

Ya. I’m new to leasing. So just trying to read and ask to get a good understanding in general and specific to this car.

No worries. Just don’t be surprised when they say it’s a good deal and we balk at it.

Also keep in mind you can generally get an XC60 for less money than an XC40 if you’re leasing.

Great. How you find what’s good MF and residual % in a given area? Browse the threads and see what others are getting?

Go on edmunds and ask them for the mf/rv/incentives.

These are all values set by the lessor. The dealer can mark up the MF, so you want to compare what it should be to what you’re quoting. In this case, .00216 appears to be accurate.

OK. BTW, sales person just responded and said $6590 is total rebate and there is breakdown and that sounds weird to me.

Yes it’s 5975 Volvo lease plus 500 Labor Day bonus in SoCal

Best I’ve seen is 4K off (around 9%) in SoCal. Too bad the MF and residuals are not competitive.

Maybe Volvo APR on lease and financing is not good. https://www.volvocars.com/us/build/suv/xc40/r-design/t5-awd/summary?s=BWDMQ54 shows 5.04% for financing. MF: 0.00216 is 5.184.

This deal is garbage.

Assume this is a 2019 unit, since it had the lease cash applied. I think you should be at about 8% dealer discount, maybe even as high as 10 to 11% dealer discount if the unit is aged. Then apply the incentives, and apply MSDs.

But it is a great car, so keep hustling!

https://www.volvocars.com/us/shopping-tools/purchase/offers/XC40#Trim-1

For 2020 XC40 T5 AWD R-Design:
LEASE:
$ 465 / 36 MO
$3,865 cash due at signing.

$560 / month

2019 model should get a better deal than that.