Everyone has different tastes
I guarantee you, 99% of the people driving loaner Volvos donāt floor it to every light, nor are concerned with 0-60 times like an early 20 something that feels the need to record and post said times either. Cause those 0-60 times are oh so important in the real world of driving off a track somewhere
You are wrong, lol! They whip the shit out of these loaner carsā¦
People who care about 0-60 times, do not buy Volvoās. They never have. Volvo knows that. Itās why the Polestar models are such limited in numbers. Itās the same reason why Toyota has not (and I would dare to say, probably will not) give the new Corolla a turbo. Because people who buy Corollaās donāt give a shit about how fast it is.
Iām not sure where you live that you find people screaming around town in an S90 on a test drive, but thatās not been my experience. Far more likely they want to see how the Pilot Assist works, how a child seat fits and if itās as comfy as their sister-in-lawās, brotherās, wife told them it was.
@Ursus @Orangeman96 @Bjam
You realize that Volvo has completely changed its styling and audience target. Before Geely, they were mostly purchased by older folks, but these cars were made with true care and quality. The classical, boxy XC70 (what a gorgeous classicā¦I would always drive one for fun when opportunity was there. That unique whistle of the 5 cylinder is truly one of a kind).
I remember the older S60 models were so fun to drive. You could feel pure quality in every piece.
Can you imagine that in 2001, the Volvo S60 T5 āhustled from 0 to 60 mph in a quick 6.5 seconds and covered the quarter-mile in 14.9 seconds at 99 mphā. Just look at it, back in 2001! Unbelievable! That car is faster than many Volvoās today, in 2019.
They knew how to make superb cars that last. One of my friends has a 2003 S60 2.5T AWD with 140k miles, and it runs like a new carā¦with original parts. Everything inside the cabin is original, no outside pieces are painted. He has kept it in such condition, as if he just purchased it today. It does not squeak or rattle. Like new! It is garage kept. His leather has no tears in it, and his steering wheel looks very new, without showing amy signs of worn out leather. My other friend has an S60, but a 2001ā¦with almost 300k miles. Yes, he changed parts here and there, but it runs, and runs strong!
Every time I get to drive that generation 2001-2008, I really get upset, at how much more I enjoy driving Volvoās from then, versus today. Their whole identity was within these 5 cylinders, boxy styles, and Swedish feel. Just the feeling the car gave you, is hard to describe. Those round oval buttons, climate knobs, seat shape, gaugesā¦are all so classy and tasteful.
Today, they are trying to target younger folks, with cars like the XC40 and S60. You get into oneā¦and its lifeless. It has no identity. Its 2 big screens and a sad whine of the boosted 4 cylinder.
You can thank Geely for destroying this wonderful brand, and making it just another car.
If I were to choose a ānewā 2006 S60 or a 2019 S60, I would gladly take the 2006 S60 2.5T or R, and I would enjoy it a million times more, than what is made today.
I miss the good old Volvoās of the past eraā¦these were true tanks.
But I heard they can polestar upgrade any car.
Right. Because yāknow itās really tricky to build a successful business model when all your customers die off.
They HAD to change. They saw what happened to Saab.
Well what they made in 2001-2008, is much nicer than what they make now! I donāt see the newer S60 lasting even 150,000 milesā¦not even talking about 300,000 miles. I would love to see that happen.
And look at this, 2004, and still in excellent shape.
I absolutely love that styling. Those headlight washers, the way the doors are made insideā¦with high quality grip handlesā¦I think that was a masterpiece of the time. Even has memory seatsā¦can you imagine
Who cares? This is LEASEhackr.
Iām not planning on purchasing a 3 year old Volvo, for much the same reason I wouldnāt purchase a 3 year old anything unless it was a Toyota or Lexus and even thenā¦ I lease so I donāt have to deal with maintaining a car to 150,000 miles or 300,000 miles. No thank you. I am not interested in keeping a car past 36,000 miles to be fair.
Because cars these days are horribly madeā¦and they fail at 70-80k miles. These newer Volvoās arenāt meant to be driven more than 5 yearsā¦they start falling apart. Back then, they made cars that last. Everyone has different financial situations. What if you canāt get another car in 3 years, and what you have now fails you. With the older S60ās, those who bought them, had a easy 16-18 year ownership termā¦and could keep them as long as they please, because they work! Even to this day, they are not that outdated. They have most modern features, for a car that is 16 years old.
Iām feeling thatās what Bmw is now. Done by 50k.
You canāt win with a 20 year old know it all. He always manages to suck me in though because his sense of real world reality is so warped. Then again, I guess we were all 20 and knew everything once too. I hope we werenāt as obnoxious about it though
What did I say wrong? You disagree that 2.5T isnāt reliable?
Yet people are keeping those cars that donāt last longer
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/news/amp22815727/america-household-vehicle-age/
Ok, Iām as much at fault as anyone for getting off topic, but letās get back on track. Keep it to the OPs original question or itāll get moved to the landfill.
So do we think these s60ās are going to be affordable in the near future?
Not for a few months it seems
I donāt get how anyone could live with the interior on the Momentum (or even R-Design) compared to an Inscription. I get that the price is much lower, but the Momentum interior is so bad it almost feels like a non-luxury car. My wife and I looked at a 2017 XC90 Momentum and we laughed out loud at the swath of non-perforated, bumpy leather as soon as we opened the door and asked the salesman to go get an Inscription instead. In my opinion, itās well worth the money to jump up to an Inscription. The R-Design is a bit nicer than the Momentum, but you still miss out on a lot of the luxury features the Inscription has.