2019 outback 3.6R Vs. 2020 outback Turbo

Hi,

Although I have been on forum for the past couple of weeks reading many posts and learning about many aspects of leasing but this is my first post. I know there have been many threads on reddit comparing both models but I want to listen to what you guys have to say about it. Apparently, the new OB engine with turbo is supposed to be efficient and powerful but at the same time it is going to be a first year of the new gen engine and might not be as reliable as the current 3.6R. Moreover, people are also talking about the annoying start/stop of the turbo engine which might not be very easy to disable.

Also, I talked to the dealer and was given following numbers for a 3.6R Limited (option 24)
Monthly payment: 301 + tax
Miles: 10k/year for 3 years
DAS: 1000

Please let me know what you think.

That’s a very very good price for a limited 3.6R, if you like the engine response and anonymous style go for it.
I decided to wait for the turbo even if it’s not a killer deal like the current outback. I used to lease the forester XT and man that turbo makes all the difference, even the CVT benefited from the added power. Really nice and I expect that to be the case with the new XT onyx.

Doesn’t the Ascent use the same engine?

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If you don’t mind spending a few more $ at the pump the 2019 outback is a steal (will lease much better). Very nice and well priced. Unless you want that 2020 black sport edition I’d cheap out and see if any 19s with color/equip I want are left.

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I had '15 Outback 3.6. It was about the right power for the car, but it was so front-heavy. It handled like an old Grand Marquis.

I’ll pick a modern turbo 4 before a non-turbo 6 any day.

Subaru has sold a ton of Ascents with the same 2.4 turbo 4.

I have a 2017 outack 4 cylinder. Not only is it underpowered, but the car does not handle particularly well.

My 2019 Forester is much more fun to drive and handles much better.

My lease is up in December, and while I’m tempted to get the 3.6, I’ll probably pass due to the poor handling. And I’m not crazy about the seats either.

The outback 3.6 is not meant to be great in the handling department but it has some great power to it. Seats are more than comfortable and the inside is the size of a studio apartment.

I’m sure the 2020 is going to be an outstanding improvement in every way, but I truly could not be happier with 2019 3.6.

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I was messing around on TrueCar since the Onyx is on there now. Got emailed this deal:

The MSRP is 38,638 and your sales price would be 37,638. Your lease number would be 476.59 plus tax 48.85 for a total of 525.44 for 35 more months and this is for 10K per year. The money factor is .00145 and the residual is 63% leaving your with a buyout after 3 years of 24,341.94 if you wanted to purchase it at that point.

I know it’s early yet and Subaru’s don’t generally lease too well but good lord.

There is barely a single one on the road yet. You need to give it a few months and it’ll be back down in the mid-upper 300s.

Too soon. And Subarus do lease pretty well. Not sure where that info came from. Maybe 5 plus years ago?

Varies by region. Some areas (like NorCal and Seattle) are better than others.

Four months in and I just received the following deal quote on a Black Limited XT in NJ…
MSRP - $40,434, incl. destination
Sale Price - $37,327
Residual - 62% ($25,069)
MF - .00155
Months - 36
Miles - 12,000
DAS - $0
Monthly Payment - $538

Seems outrageous but leasehackr calculator agrees…

That’s a ā€œbuyā€ car

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A calculator just spits a number out based on what you put in. Doesn’t mean it’s a good deal.

I didn’t state or imply it was a good deal…said it was outrageous. Was surprised the leasehackr calculator matched the dealer quote since never know what kind of fuzzy math they do with their numbers…

What makes this car a ā€˜buy’ car vs. lease? No good lease deals on the 2020, yet? The 2019’s were going for low-mid 300’s for the 3.6R.

You buy Subaru cars, that’s it. They hold value better than anything else. Leases are much better on them now, but they still have mostly 0 incentives. You lease them when the terms are really good.

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