Wonder if the new girlfriend is sleeping on the factory floor/couch with him?
Everyone has to work 24/7, including her.
Bad News Tesla rules the headlines…for all the wrong reasons. Again.
That wall just came out of nowhere. Was probably on it’s way to Mexico, but wasn’t very good at geography.
Nah. The quickest point between 2 objects is a straight line. He never received the software download to transform the car into a boat.
So I have some interesting finding from Model 3 and Model S charging and cost of driving. I don’t own one, so my PG&E plan at home isn’t taylor for EV, so all my charging cost is based on a paid public charger.
- Palo Alto city costs about 23 cents per kWh.
- Tesla chargers are 14 cents for Model 3, and free for S
Miles per kWh numbers are interesting. For a week of commute and 3 weekend of usage, I averaged between 3-4mile per kWh. I got 3 mile per kWh if I drive it like my daily commuter for commute, which involves 3 miles of local and 7 mile of highway. I got 3.5 mile per kWh in mostly local driving. I can get to 4 mile per kWh if I purposely drive very slow like a grandma. All with AC on auto, flat terrain. I think the 3 mile number is more of a equivalent for my usage => 3 miles for 23 cents in Palo Alto or 7.6 cents per mile, or 4.6 cents if you have Tesla charging station nearby.
A 2018 Honda civic probably average 35 mpg. A gallon of 87 is about $3.70 this week on the street or $3.4 at Costco, making Civic 10.5 cents per mile on public gas station, or 9.7 cents at Costco.
In best case, Tesla charger vs Costco gas, the saving is 5.1 cents per mile. Let’s say average Americans drive 12K mile a year, this lead to $612 saving in a year. A civic EX-l sedan has MSRP of $24K. A based Model 3 is $35K. Let’s day you get $10K incentive from federal + state, making a base Model 3 $25K. In this case, Model 3 is a winner. If without the $10K incentive, it will take a long time to recoup the additional purchase price from fuel saving.
I know people will say Model 3 vs Civic?? But honestly, I really can’t put the interior material quality, comfort level and luxury amenity, overall fit and finish workmanship, interior noise level, … of Model 3 to Accord level. If Honda civic is a 1, Accord is a 10. I think Model 3 is probably at 2-3 at best in aspects.
But it doesnt say that the car was in autopilot
Nor did I…20202020
yeah i don’t know why i replied to you. i was just trying to comment on the thread lol.
Base model 3 isn’t available. Fed tax break will probably be lessened by the time it does get released, unless it is extended.
one is a real car with a real price. the other is a car that does not yet exist at the trim/price level with a fake price.
Yes yes, agree. that is why I said best case scenario. the Model 3 I tested is @ $55K. No way fuel saving can make sense.
When I talk to Tesla, they gave me a true cost of own calculation which makes Model 3 very close to Civic. But after I use the charging station around, I realized they are quoting the cost of producing electricity, not the cost of electricity to consumers, which is much higher
In tesla’s Defense, you won’t have oil changes, spark plugs, and other general maintenance costs you would have on an ice, which you didn’t take into consideration in your calc either.
Doubtful people who really want a tesla will crossshop it with a civic. If I want a cayenne, I am not going to crossshop it with an escalate.
Electric cars are not for everyone, tesla or not. It goes beyond the numbers. Are Ferrari twice as fast as a 911? No
At this point, we have no idea the cost of maintaining a Tesla. Tesla marketing says exactly what you just said too. I wonder the cost of battery pack change since it is a known wear item.
This show how successful Tesla marketing is and how much is Elon Musk’s face valued. By itself they are amazing achievement.
What do you mean? No BEV has oil, plugs or a fuel filter, and brakes should theoretically last longer. I’m not talking about wear items in the suspension. The battery is covered by an 8 year warranty.
I’m not a fanboi…that’s just logic.
Understood and no disagreement, but do we know what Tesla need? Since Tesla can only be maintained at Tesla, so the cost maybe high even less items are needed.
As for cars like Honda Civic, plugs are like 100K items, they are not expansive anyway. Oil is 5000mile item, but at say $50 a pop.
I am not so sure about brake will last longer because the weight of the car. Model 3 is easily 800lb (25%) heavier than Civic. Tires will definitely wear out faster with Model 3 due to incredible off the line the torque. But even if change frequency is the same, a set of Model 3 will be substantially more than a Civic. Let’s see, in a few year, we will know the true cost of Model 3.
NTSB is probing the crash that killed the 2 teens in FL mainly because of the fire. Elon is probably wishing he hadn’t hung up on the NTSB’s chief and pissed him off.