# Why don't dealers pass on Federal Rebate savings in lease?

**URL:** <https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914>\
**Category:** Buy/Finance\
**Tags:** bmw, ca-socal\
**Created:** [December 29, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914 "2022-12-29T22:01:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/21 "2022-12-31T00:54:11Z")

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> [@freshwater](#):
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> I will not lease an EV if manufacturer refuse to pass the $7500 credit on the lease.

This would be so easy to get around.

Show the rebate as a line item and drop the RV, jack up the MF and remove any rebates.

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**Author:** ![cezar9](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/cezar9/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@cezar9](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/cezar9)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/22 "2022-12-31T01:33:24Z")

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Basically what Audi used to do before the reform. Just look at the MF of Q5 and Q5e

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**Author:** ![freshwater](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/freshwater/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@freshwater](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/freshwater)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/23 "2022-12-31T02:01:11Z")

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I am sure most of the consumers wont fall for that trap. But there always few who will fall for that.  
How many Q5e or Q4e on the roads now not many

Only thing I see is etron which they had a fire sale 3 or 4 yrs back with Costco rebate …

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**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/24 "2022-12-31T02:13:47Z")

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> [@mllcb42](#):
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> > [@freshwater](#):
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> > And who is mad now
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> Manchin.
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> Just because a bank doesnt pass it in directly as a cap cost reduction doesnt necessarily mean it doesnt get factored into their lease programs.

We all should be mad at this poorly written piece of crap bill rammed through out of desperation and bad faith negotiation.

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**Author:** ![cezar9](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/cezar9/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@cezar9](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/cezar9)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/25 "2022-12-31T02:41:31Z")

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I got a text and email from two separate AC companies that prices of ACs are going up after January 1st. People thought they would be getting a free credit to install a new AC.

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**Author:** ![sachmo22](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/sachmo22/32/114220_2.png) [@sachmo22](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/sachmo22)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/26 "2023-01-04T06:20:20Z")

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agree, frustrating that no EVs can be leased incorporating a 7500 tax rebate for the consumer. Has anyone seen any manufacturer/brand/dealer/finance company do that- even thought the law came out on Dec 29. thanks. I am interesting in leasing an electric and trying to see how I can get the benefit of the electric tax rebate. Appreciate any insights.

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**Author:** ![sachmo22](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/sachmo22/32/114220_2.png) [@sachmo22](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/sachmo22)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/27 "2023-01-04T06:22:46Z")

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the ID4 lease is pretty bad- so even if they offer- not sure its worth it. Is Tesla offering it? where did you see ID4 offering it. I called a dealer in socal (irvine) and they told me the standard- talk to your account ☹

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/28 "2023-01-04T07:47:05Z")

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> [@sachmo22](#):
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> agree, frustrating that no EVs can be leased incorporating a 7500 tax rebate for the consumer. Has anyone seen any manufacturer/brand/dealer/finance company do that- even thought the law came out on Dec 29. thanks. I am interesting in leasing an electric and trying to see how I can get the benefit of the electric tax rebate. Appreciate any insights.

Ccap has already announced that theyre continuing to pass on the $7500 on the phev jeeps and pacifica.

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**Author:** ![StingerTT](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stingertt/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StingerTT](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StingerTT)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 1:11pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/29 "2023-01-04T13:11:48Z")

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> [@IAC](#):
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> While we wait, I’m offering over 6K off front end on a i4 40e that’s in stock.

What’s the sales price on that bad-boy?

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**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/30 "2023-01-04T13:52:07Z")

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**Author:** ![sachmo22](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/sachmo22/32/114220_2.png) [@sachmo22](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/sachmo22)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/31 "2023-01-04T17:45:16Z")

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Thanks, the phev jeeps dont seem to lease very well. Around $1000/month. not interested in the pacifica. I wish Tesla would pass on for the model 3 🙂

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/32 "2023-01-04T17:46:01Z")

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> [@sachmo22](#):
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> Thanks, the phev jeeps dont seem to lease very well

Compared to what?

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/33 "2023-01-04T17:49:22Z")

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The model 3. I am new to the leasing game, so correct me if I am wrong on the jeep phev lease payments. I am basically looking to get a PHEV or electric and take advantage of the tax rebate on leases. Not picky on the car itself (except no smaller bolt type cars)

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**Author:** ![BigNerd](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bignerd/32/148824_2.png) [@BigNerd](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/BigNerd)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/34 "2023-01-04T18:39:56Z")

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> [@sachmo22](#):
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> Thanks, the phev jeeps dont seem to lease very well. Around $1000/month.

I don’t think you are finding the right deals. There are brokers here who will lease the Jeeps for significantly less than that.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/35 "2023-01-04T18:56:29Z")

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Tesla’s been passing $3750/$7500 for almost the entire month of Dec. I guess you missed the train.

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/36 "2023-01-04T19:07:47Z")

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> [@sachmo22](#):
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> The model 3

Model 3 leases like crap and certainly more than a lower trim gc 4xe.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/37 "2023-01-04T19:16:18Z")

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There is a lot more to a good lease than whether the paperwork shows $7,500 as a line item. This has been discussed many times before.

You should start your own thread on what you need in a car, which state, budget etc etc.

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**Author:** ![sachmo22](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/sachmo22/32/114220_2.png) [@sachmo22](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/sachmo22)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/38 "2023-01-04T19:39:56Z")

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I thought it was not for leases- it was only for purchase. Also I did try to find model 3 rwd in socal to purchase before end of year and no inventory was available.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/39 "2023-01-04T19:40:59Z")

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gotcha- thanks!

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**Author:** ![sachmo22](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/sachmo22/32/114220_2.png) [@sachmo22](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/sachmo22)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/why-dont-dealers-pass-on-federal-rebate-savings-in-lease/443914/40 "2023-01-04T19:51:11Z")

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Thanks, just did. Appreciate the insights max\_g

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