Was This Finally “Peak Insanity” in Used Vehicle Prices? And all other crystal ball questions

Carvana just pulled the rug from underneath their bid for my X4. Last week they offered 49K and just lowered it to 46K. It had stabilized for a couple of weeks and even went up from 47.7 to 49K, but the 46K is a new 3 month low.

The fact that everyone and their mother is now buying used cars is a sign that we are near or at peak insanity. Even my shoeshine boy is talking about flipping cars.

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Buy the rumor, sell the news.

Now we wait.

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I’m the shoeshine boy :wink:

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I had been following this discussion and had a moment this morning when I saw from mycarfax the value of my relative’s 2000 Acura TL in Fair condition was now $4,080 private party and excellent crept up to a staggering $5,810. This used car market is nuts. I use mycarfax to keep tabs on my older relatives cars as they tend to forget registration or maintenance etc if I don’t remind them.

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That’s a collectible though, completely different ball game :rofl: Get something on paper like a firm offer from Carvana, Vroom, Carmax and provide a reference point to help establish some trend. Otherwise just one number from carfax is meaningless.

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Wow, this one baffles me, nice that you keep an eye on it for them.

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Haha, I made a similar shoeshine boy comment not too long ago. At the same time though, I find a surprising amount of people with brains, spare cash, and a history of hustle that still seem very disinterested when I explain it to them. The possibility of selling a used car for more than a new car seems to fry a lot of brains.

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Honestly, I think for starters we’re all car nuts here. If any of these people are point A to point B people, they would never understand.

Just being able to experience a wide range of different vehicles and to flip them for a profit fits just right for most of us here.

My wife still doesn’t understand.

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I think even to break even or incur a minor loss compared being decimated for selling in the first year or two previously is a huge benefit of the current market.

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I’d say I’m more of a deal nut.

Being able to recoup my lease payments never crossed my mind till twelve months ago.

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I flipped my M4 right after my 18th. I think I’m the shoeshine boy :rofl:. I have a trx shipping next week, and a few other leads panning outl

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Trx and 18 BALLER

How do they determine average MSRP or asking? Are they even the same cars?

From what I’ve read, manufacturers are producing more high end/loaded models (more profit!)…but if this article just looks at what an “average” model should sell for, then it’s a meaningless comparison.

For example, it says the average MSRP for a Macan is $57K…the cheapest model on the Porsche website is $55K. Having shopped for Porsches in the past (for friends), most have dozens of options…it was mindboggling the first time I saw a window sticker.

So the article is saying the average only has 2K in options?

I don’t think so.

They are 70+, if I see them I check their tire pressure too. Don’t know how much longer all will be driving. An 80 year old driving is pretty concerning.

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You sir are a good man.

On Porsches options are tricky i agree, the guy with a yellow exterior and red leather interior definitely brings down the averages.