# VW ID.4, $401.23, $5,000 down+$4,500 trade allowance **URL:** \ **Category:** Signed Deals & Tips\ **Tags:** ca-socal, volkswagen\ **Created:** [July 28, 2021, 5:24am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766 "2021-07-28T05:24:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lvs23](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/lvs23/32/22039_2.png) [@Lvs23](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Lvs23)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/61 "2021-08-02T00:53:38Z")
Like this?🙂 ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/f/9/f9676b58bbf686765ab7b42826c868e25730033c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![StagSwag](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stagswag/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StagSwag](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StagSwag)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/62 "2021-08-02T00:57:57Z")
The 5 year is 5 year from the service date. If you keep up with the yearly maintenance, it extends the warranty. ---
**Author:** ![StagSwag](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stagswag/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StagSwag](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StagSwag)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/63 "2021-08-02T01:00:00Z")
Oof, it definitely won’t keep the scratches like that away. Though surface damage did seem to wipe off. Where I really noticed it the most was at the self car wash; high pressure soap, water and dry with rags. No need to scrub. Ceramic is definitely bells and whistles, time will tell if it is snake oil or actually works very well. I know that Tesla owners definitely need a ceramic coating or clear bra with their paint issues. ---
**Author:** ![ras815](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/ras815/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@ras815](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/ras815)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/64 "2021-08-02T01:00:24Z")
Admittedly I’m not an expert on this, but “ceramic coating” sounds on the level of getting a shaman to bless your car (for only $750, dealer special!) ---
**Author:** ![StagSwag](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stagswag/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StagSwag](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StagSwag)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/65 "2021-08-02T01:06:35Z")
On one hand, I can see that, on the other, you can see the real application. I think it’s really more up to the end user on wether it’s worth it or not. $200? no brainer. $500? still worth it. $1K? definitely need to think about it. The price might come down as ceramic products start getting more reliable competition and more detailers become certified. There are definitely ceramic products that are largely water and have a bit of hydrophobic built in, but wear off quickly. Others have a stronger bond, specially with multiple applications and curing. I would say that the $750 would definitely be a ripoff from a dealer, if it weren’t for external ceramic services going for similar pricing or higher. It also comes down to what ceramic the dealer is using, is it that 1 week ceramic spray or are they doing multilayer coats? ---
**Author:** ![ElectricEliminator](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/electriceliminator/32/7382_2.png) [@ElectricEliminator](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/ElectricEliminator)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/66 "2021-08-02T01:17:15Z")
Most things I’ve read seem to suggest that the bulk of the cost when you are paying that kind of money is labor for paint correction and prep work. If that was done then it’s probably not an unreasonable cost. If they just applied it without doing all of that then it’s probably a bit of a rip. ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/67 "2021-08-02T01:37:02Z")
Did you do the pro gold or pro silver package? The 5 year (silver) becomes only 2 years if you don’t get the annual inspections. ---
**Author:** ![CarHax](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/carhax/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@CarHax](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/CarHax)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/68 "2021-08-02T02:01:27Z")
If it really worked, the 911/Q8/M8 etc would offer a factory ceramic paint option like ceramic breaks… This is just fancy RainX/Scotchguard, which temporarily works but washes out over time and is worth like $100 in wholesale product ---
**Author:** ![StagSwag](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stagswag/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StagSwag](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StagSwag)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/69 "2021-08-02T02:10:34Z")
5 year gold ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/70 "2021-08-02T02:40:38Z")
> [@ElectricEliminator](#): > > the bulk of the cost when you are paying that kind of money is labor for paint correction and prep work. If that was done then it’s probably not an unreasonable cost. There’s no way a dealer did that ---
**Author:** ![StingerTT](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stingertt/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StingerTT](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StingerTT)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/71 "2021-08-02T07:33:01Z")
But _why_ ceramic coat an ID4? I get doing it on a sports car or expensive luxury car. Why not just do front end clear bra? ---
**Author:** ![StagSwag](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stagswag/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StagSwag](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StagSwag)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/72 "2021-08-02T07:52:17Z")
Ceramic is insanely easy to clean. Also, high end folks do clear bra and ceramic on top of the clear bra. ---
**Author:** ![StingerTT](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stingertt/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StingerTT](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StingerTT)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/73 "2021-08-02T09:47:45Z")
> [@StagSwag](#): > > Also, high end folks do clear bra and ceramic on top of the clear bra. Doesnt make it wise. I don’t see the point of ceramic coating in the protective layer. Clear bra will infinitely be more effective at protecting the clear coat versus ceramic coating. Clear bra is also insanely easy to clean, unless you’re referring to ceramics hydrophobic properties. Either way, we’ve beat this to death, you got what you wanted; hope you enjoy it! ---
**Author:** ![Zein](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/zein/32/145751_2.png) [@Zein](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Zein)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/74 "2021-08-02T15:39:08Z")
Why rush to the ID4? It’s the adorable nightlight emblem in the grill for me. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![StagSwag](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stagswag/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StagSwag](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StagSwag)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/75 "2021-08-03T05:57:45Z")
That’s what rich people do lol I wouldn’t myself ---
**Author:** ![StingerTT](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stingertt/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StingerTT](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StingerTT)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/76 "2021-08-03T06:00:02Z")
> [@StagSwag](#): > > That’s what **foolish** people do lol I wouldn’t myself Fixed it for you. ---
**Author:** ![StagSwag](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stagswag/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@StagSwag](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/StagSwag)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/77 "2021-08-03T06:42:36Z")
If you own a 911 and a $3K wrap and ceramic is a drop in the bucket for the shine and convenience, do it ---
**Author:** ![ElectricEliminator](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/electriceliminator/32/7382_2.png) [@ElectricEliminator](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/ElectricEliminator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/78 "2021-08-03T11:08:13Z")
When you start getting into exotics things like wraps, clear bra, etc become necessary to some people to protect the resale value from rock chips and other minor mishaps that could damage the paint. It can be a good investment. Putting that kind of stuff on a mainstream car, especially one with questionable resale value probably won’t be as good of an investment. ---
**Author:** ![manku](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/manku/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@manku](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/manku)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/79 "2021-08-03T13:57:56Z")
If I owned a 911, I’m paying a mobile detail to come and wash my car. I also shake my head when I watch the Bentley’s and other high end cars on line at the Costco gas station these days. ---
**Author:** ![zaimer](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/zaimer/32/209153_2.png) [@zaimer](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/zaimer)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766/80 "2021-08-03T14:04:20Z")
Spot on. I’m not saying ceramic coating is a bad thing, but it also isn’t for everyone and I think there is a lot of misinterpretation of what ceramic is/does. Ceramic acts nearly the same as a good wax, nothing more and nothing less. It is not some sort of miracle barrier, nor does it do much more than repel the elements. Ceramic has a longer lifespan than wax, and is also for people who do not wax their vehicles. Ceramic service typically includes a thorough detail/paint correction, if done at a reputable shop. These costs that are thrown around are not simply the application of the ceramic coating. Either way, to pay anywhere from $1k-$2k is absolutely insane IMO. It is not difficult to apply if you have a bit of knowledge and don’t mind a little work. [Previous page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/vw-id-4-401-23-5-000-down-4-500-trade-allowance/377766.md?page=5)