Interesting, thanks.
I’ve been leveraging this approach - https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/verbiage-to-use-when-approaching-bmw-dealers/313677/2?u=jivedonkey
Asking them for a quote up front, then responding back with my offer when they come back with their initial offer - but I’ve found some dealers short circuit that approach and go right to the question in the title.