# Thoughts on Genesis Deal **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask the Hackrs\ **Tags:** ca-socal\ **Created:** [May 16, 2026, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/thoughts-on-genesis-deal/762493 "2026-05-16T00:28:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![gohawks23](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/gohawks23/32/191452_2.png) [@gohawks23](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/gohawks23)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/thoughts-on-genesis-deal/762493/5 "2026-05-16T18:11:10Z")
You know when he says ‘down’ he means cap reduction. DAS/due at signing/total out of pocket means what you are paying at signing. Try to put your deal in LH calc to learn. > [@LH Calculator and how to use it](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/lh-calculator-and-how-to-use-it/246415): > > One of the more common posts we see here are from people trying to utilize the [LH Calculator](https://leasehackr.com/calculator/) and struggling to get the correct numbers. More often than not, this is the result of user error, so let this be a guide on how to use the calculator and what values go where. With that said, a few starting notes. Read these 3 times before continuing: The calculator is not perfect, there are some limitations in how things are calculated. Do not expect to match an offer perfectly. There are often diffe… --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/thoughts-on-genesis-deal/762493)._