# The Tesla Landfill. Shame. Shame. Shame

**URL:** <https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871>\
**Category:** EV\
**Tags:** tesla\
**Created:** [February 8, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871 "2023-02-08T21:56:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![spockvr6](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/spockvr6/32/183857_2.png) [@spockvr6](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/spockvr6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/21 "2023-02-13T19:00:37Z")

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Personally, I have no interest in selling mine. I’m just friendly with this dealer (so I catch up with them and chitchat fairly frequently). The conversation turned to Teslas (and curiosity got the better of me) so I asked for an approximate value on mine. That’s when they told me they would not even want to make an offer on it 🤪

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**Author:** ![M3WC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/m3wc/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@M3WC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/M3WC)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/22 "2023-02-13T20:41:39Z")

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> [@Jshin](#):
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> Jeebus seems like Teslas are in the shitter right now. No point in selling in todays market.

Just wait for some international incident to happen and oil prices skyrocket. Nothing like $8/gallon gas to increase EV second hand market prices. The likelihood of that happening right now seems quite high.

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**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/23 "2023-02-13T20:47:17Z")

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Especially now that SPR has been tapped on to prop up self deleterious energy policy championed by a former VP.

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**Author:** ![LAGuy](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/laguy/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@LAGuy](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/LAGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/24 "2023-02-13T21:01:43Z")

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> [@M3WC](#):
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> Just wait for some international incident to happen and oil prices skyrocket. Nothing like $8/gallon gas to increase EV second hand market prices.

This scenario may seem ludicrous but it was a reality at some west Los Angeles gas stations only last summer:

 ![gas](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/4/c/4cdcdc3a49c4dd0de20dbe1fb4832b4e7122f5f1.png)

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/25 "2023-02-13T21:39:28Z")

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Where were you getting $.16/kWh in LA in the summer?

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**Author:** ![LAGuy](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/laguy/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@LAGuy](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/LAGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/26 "2023-02-13T21:53:19Z")

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I was referring specifically to the $7.99 gas prices.

As far as electricity cost, if you are over 70 yo, have 16 dependents and earn less than $20,000/yr, the city of Beverly Hills will subsidize your bill to $0.16/kWh.

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**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/27 "2023-02-13T21:55:26Z")

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> [@LAGuy](#):
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> As far as electricity cost, if you are over 70 yo, have 16 dependents and earn less than $20,000/yr, the city of Beverly Hills will subsidize your bill to $0.16/kWh.

Oh hey, I found some unobtanium.

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**Author:** ![spockvr6](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/spockvr6/32/183857_2.png) [@spockvr6](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/spockvr6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/28 "2023-02-13T22:02:02Z")

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> [@LAGuy](#):
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> the city of Beverly Hills will subsidize your bill to $0.16/kWh.

In Tampa Bay, we just had our rates _ **raised** _ to that and everyone is furious!

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**Author:** ![anon65069371](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/anon65069371/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@anon65069371](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/anon65069371)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/29 "2023-02-13T22:03:03Z")

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Current off peak hours is .30 kWh for Edison

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**Author:** ![LAGuy](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/laguy/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@LAGuy](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/LAGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/30 "2023-02-13T22:03:27Z")

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To compare apples to apples, $0.30 - $0.40/kWh should be used for Tesla electricity cost.  
Therefore $800 Est. Electricity/yr vs $4,000 Est. Gas/yr is more accurate.

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**Author:** ![spockvr6](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/spockvr6/32/183857_2.png) [@spockvr6](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/spockvr6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/31 "2023-02-13T22:04:38Z")

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I wish we had peak/non-peak/time of use rates. It’s the same rate 24/7/365 here.

They just did implement a $10 per month per car credit for EVs if you are willing to charge them during certain hours of the day though. I signed up as the hours are not very limiting.

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**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/32 "2023-02-13T22:05:23Z")

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We locked in at 13c/kWh last year and were able to move that rate to our new home. So thankful for that.

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**Author:** ![spockvr6](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/spockvr6/32/183857_2.png) [@spockvr6](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/spockvr6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/33 "2023-02-13T22:21:15Z")

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Our area was at 0.13 until 2-3 months ago. We dont have the market based system like I believe all (most?) of TX does.

Commercial in this area is much less. At work we use many MWh per year (data center) and we’re at something around 0.09.

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**Author:** ![Bluemkn57cars](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/bluemkn57cars/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Bluemkn57cars](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bluemkn57cars)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/34 "2023-02-13T22:52:19Z")

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Did anyone watch the anti-self driving commercial?

> **[A tech CEO spent almost $600,000 on a Super Bowl ad to warn America about...](https://fortune.com/2023/02/13/tesla-elon-musk-fsd-tech-ceo-spent-almost-600000-on-a-super-bowl-ad-to-warn-america-about-teslas-self-driving-technology/)**
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> Dan O’Dowd claims Elon Musk’s self-driving technology is extremely dangerous, but his evidence remains highly disputed.

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**Author:** ![spockvr6](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/spockvr6/32/183857_2.png) [@spockvr6](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/spockvr6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/35 "2023-02-13T22:58:04Z")

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> [@How to get a Tesla FAST... And Most Other Reasonable Things Tesla](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-tesla-fast-and-most-other-reasonable-things-tesla/387011/4088):
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> These are all paid for by Dan O Dowd. Who runs a software company that has a competing product for self driving called Mobileye. There should be some required disclosure for direct competitors when they attack a competing product. So sleazy.

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**Author:** ![Bluemkn57cars](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/bluemkn57cars/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Bluemkn57cars](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bluemkn57cars)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/36 "2023-02-13T22:58:57Z")

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Too many Tesla threads…lol

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**Author:** ![amatot](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/amatot/32/115782_2.png) [@amatot](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/amatot)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/37 "2023-02-13T23:27:03Z")

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Finally a Tesla hater did something about it lol  
Would have been nice to dedicate 10 seconds to BQ 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![LAGuy](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/laguy/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@LAGuy](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/LAGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 12:08am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/38 "2023-02-14T00:08:03Z")

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> [@Bluemkn57cars](#):
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> Did anyone watch the anti-self driving commercial?
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> [Super Bowl: Tech CEO buys ad to warn about Tesla | Fortune](https://fortune.com/2023/02/13/tesla-elon-musk-fsd-tech-ceo-spent-almost-600000-on-a-super-bowl-ad-to-warn-america-about-teslas-self-driving-technology/)

O’Dowd’s massive TSLA short at $101.81 not working out for him I guess.

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**Author:** ![M3WC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/m3wc/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@M3WC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/M3WC)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/39 "2023-02-14T06:10:51Z")

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This guy trying to FUD his trade into the green? LOL He also is developing his own competing product.

He did this earlier in 2022 and released a video. That video was quickly debunked, FSD was never engaged.

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**Author:** ![LAGuy](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/laguy/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@LAGuy](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/LAGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/the-tesla-landfill-shame-shame-shame/449871/40 "2023-02-14T07:04:03Z")

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I was just kidding about the short. Whether he did or not, I do not know. He seems to be very vested in Tesla going down in flames however.

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