The Silent transition to Electric

how much do those vehicles cost at a minimum?

Imagine these people bringing up unobtainable cars to prove some point. Might as well compare our EVs to MacLaren F1s and Ferrari 250 GTOs.

Like there’s anything visceral about the ICEVs you can get at the same price

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This. ICEVs to the next gen will be like mechanical watches to our gen.

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So it’s just for showing off & status symbol, sound about right. :sweat_smile:

Exactly, and it’s not like they dont have a fun $40-80k ice to compare from such as: Golf GTi, mini cooper JCW, M3, S4, miata, z370, WRX STi, Macan, etc.

Had anyone here tried to sell some lithium out of the battery on their EQS yet? To improve TCO?

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This should happen after the battery drop below 80% of the original capacity and performance, this could take 8 years+

My point is high-quality battery recycling is aspirational goal rather than reality at this point. I don’t even think Tesla recycles their batteries. Everyone else is far from necessary scale

They actually do recycling. But don’t pay anything for it. You CAN bring them your battery but they won’t bother to spend $ on it.

https://www.tesla.com/support/sustainability-recycling

With all the used ev available now, someone should offer a service to retrofit the used ev battery as an alternative to tesla wall charger.

Assuming I could get something like an LT1 for the same price as the Charger (at one point it was theoretically possible for me, just not in the same year), would I do it right now? I don’t know, I don’t think I would? The Charger is still faster and more powerful and has better suspension bits. I also get to charge it for free at work and for little money at home. The people who grumble about the fake exhaust vs a real V8 car… You realize your exhaust is fake too, right? They engineer all those extra burbles and pops in because they know that’s what people want to hear. A real V8 left to its own devices doesn’t actually sound like that. Then you get into the ICE cars that pump fake noises into the cabin too… Everyone hated that but we’ve all kind of just accepted it now. My $175/month EV can match a ~200k 2019 Huracan 0-60 and get pipped by about 0.2 seconds in a quarter mile. That’s just where we’re at right now.

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First markup of the one big beautiful bill ends the EV tax credit on 12/31/205.

Could be a really busy Q4 for EV sales.

Link is to MSN post of WSJ article to get around paywall.

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I probably need a new lease before the end of the year.

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I definitely do. XC90 T8 is up in November. Hope this timeline holds.

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Lease loophole is to be closed as well…

Damn, I knew I should have bought my EV 1800 years ago.

So long as they don’t dial back other incentives to front run this anticipation. Unrelated, I was talking to a CarMax exec today, who told me they took in a record amount of cars over the last 14 days. Offers must’ve increased substantially. They’re going to need significant demand to offset all that supply…

carmax, like all of the other algorithm-driven buyers, got this “bump” completely wrong. they saw an increase in demand in march/early april and assumed it was “organic”, rather than seeing it for what it was - simply demand from future months being pulled forward. they then overpaid for a bunch of inventory, which is now going to sit until they mark it down. a good amount of dealers did, too. “come lock in pre-tariff pricing”…what the hell does that even mean?

for the used EVs, the online buyers paid a little bit less than for gas, but still acquired a bunch of stuff that is now going to sit there (think teslas, etc).

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