The Silent transition to Electric

Internal combustion is nice when it’s a snarling flat-six or characterful V8, but I’d argue the vast majority of appliances with two-liter four-bangers would offer a better driving experience as an EV. The serenity, refinement, and effortlessness of a good electric powertrain is hard to beat, and it helps that most EVs are RWD or rear-biased AWD.

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You’ll be fine. Do you have all the OCD tools? A better route planner + EA app + car navigation is all you’ll ever need.

I recommend you top up at the EA in Abingdon, MD 21009. it’s the best in the DMV on your route IMO.

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You have more patience than I do :stuck_out_tongue: I have free EA 10 minutes from our house, but that meant I have to go there at odd hours to charge. It gets old real fast especially when the difference on charging at home vs free is only $3-4 difference.

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IMO, for someone with either valuable time/busy life, an EV only makes sense if you can charge at home overnight or at work (if you go to the office multiple times a week).

Before kids I would 100% be doing this. Now I would never own an EV if I had to public chrage more than a few times a year. Different strokes for different folks but this remains a hurdle for EV adoption.

This ^ I certainly enjoy driving a Miata or performance sedan/sports car. Hell, I even really enjoyed driving my somewhat under powered Q5 diesel around Europe. But I derive no enjoyment driving any mainstream Toyota/VW/Subaru product.

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If gas is $2/gal, unemployment will be 15% again like it was in 2020 and we’ll be in full scale recession.

That’s the reality. The two times gas dropped like that in the last 20 years was 2008 and 2020.

For me: gas could be free and I would still drive an EV. It’s just better.

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Yes-I always advocated that “my situation” works for me…if I had the means to charge at home I would definitely combine that-but chargers are convenient next to work so no hassle at all.
Now as @EC99 said, if I had kids and was in a very different position-heck no I still like ICE cars so would probably get what’s more appropriate at that time for less “drama” :joy:

Now someone mentioned insurance being a deciding factor, for me it wasn’t, there was no real difference when I had the Wranglers 4Xe or the Charger Hellcat pretty much the same across the board, but I also tweak the mileage reported as driven to equal about 10-12K per year across the vehicles, for example now with all 3 cars I have them at 3K each and my total 6 mo policy came to $1197 with $1K deductibles across everything. Wasn’t much more when I had $250/$500 deductible only like $160 more

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Both me and lady charge at work for free. Public charging is a PITA (except Tesla, rarely have to wait).

I know it’s not directly related, but in the tone of alternative energy: Does anyone here use flex fuel (E85)? I have had great luck, and recently convinced our entire flex-capable fleet to run it as on avg $3/gal vs $5/gal for regular here in California. I wonder the disparity in pricing, maybe more subsidies for farmers in future? Never used to be worth it but now it is (greater than 20% diff in cost to offset the mpg loss)

Doesn’t make any sense to buy an EV imo. The technology will get better every year which means your old ones will depreciate like a rock.

For ev - it’s either lease new or buy used.

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There are a few exemptions that may make sense for a S179 buyer but generally this is the way.

I’ll never go back to ICE for a daily driver. Doesn’t matter how much gas is.

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Yep, for financial standpoint, I understand why people dont want to buy ev.

The technological reason is just silly. Yes, the tech will get better, however if the current ev tech suits your driving need, it will still run just fine for however long you need it. It will not get worse just because a newer tech comes out.

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Doesn’t make sense to buy as long as leases are cheap.

The obsolescence argument doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. There’s been no more advancement than in ICEVs.

If anything the 50+ MPG Camry hybrid and 30+ electric range in PHEV SUVs have moved the needle for ICEV buyers than any BEV has in the last few year.

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Same. Any time I travel and rent a car, I get surprised for a moment just how archaic the driving experience is on most run of the mill gasoline cars.

It is not, and never should have been a political statement or a virtue signal. I did a 24m lease on a lower-end EV to see if I liked it and if it works for me. It suits my usage. I love the convenience and really love the way it drives, so when this lease is up, I’ll be in another EV, whether gas is $1.75 or $7.50 / gallon.

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People say this as if the problem is limited to certain OEMs or that the problem can be engineered out. Who’s supposed to be the manufacturer of the most refined vehicles? Mercedes? Their 2.0t sounds like a diesel tractor.

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In an E350 loaner currently and can confirm this statement to be 100% accurate.

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