# Tesla bankruptcy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Ramp\ **Created:** [March 28, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637 "2018-03-28T18:14:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![mp11477](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mp11477/32/9283_2.png) [@mp11477](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mp11477)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/567 "2018-05-14T20:14:49Z")
Purchasers of this device should be automatically enrolled in the next Darwin award discussion… > **[Autopilot Buddy is a very dangerous way to cheat Tesla's hands-off warnings](https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/autopilot-buddy-tesla-dangerous-cheating-autosteer-warnings/)** > > Under no circumstances should anybody try to game the system like this. ---
**Author:** ![mack2nite](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mack2nite/32/8588_2.png) [@mack2nite](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mack2nite)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/568 "2018-05-14T20:18:05Z")
If you’re being sarcastic, I apologize for missing it. I’m an engineer and this happens all the time. Some exec will promise the world initially and when the numbers are crunched, hard choices need to be made. Reducing the scope or features is usually preferred to by them before they’ll increase the budget. Musk promised $35k model 3’s well before the car was in production. I could see them needing to trim some stuff now that prices for everything are going up. (FYI: look at the lengths VW went to make a buck on their dirty diesels) ---
**Author:** ![changehiphop](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/changehiphop/32/11544_2.png) [@changehiphop](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/changehiphop)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/569 "2018-05-14T20:23:00Z")
> [@mack2nite](#): > > If you’re being sarcastic, I apologize for missing it… His post was dripping with sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![mack2nite](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mack2nite/32/8588_2.png) [@mack2nite](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mack2nite)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/570 "2018-05-14T20:32:09Z")
I guess his point is that we shouldn’t care since it happens frequently? ---
**Author:** ![MConte05](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mconte05/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@MConte05](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/MConte05)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/571 "2018-05-14T20:36:31Z")
As an engineer myself, yep, it was pretty loaded with sarcasm. 🙂 Even in the defense aerospace industry, things would get redesigned, parts brought down to bare minimum to meet customer requirements and save some money. I can only imagine the automotive industry is even more cutthroat. Though also now having my own business designing and producing products, I also am finding myself forcing to create products as cheap as I can if I want any semblance of profit. So easy to see both sides now. ---
**Author:** ![Ursus](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/ursus/32/4944_2.png) [@Ursus](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Ursus)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/572 "2018-05-14T22:02:35Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [Off Topic Landfill](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill/39487/423) ---
**Author:** ![bro1999](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bro1999/32/25763_2.png) [@bro1999](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/bro1999)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/573 "2018-05-14T22:31:59Z")
> **[Tesla is losing top talent and facing a cash crunch at a critical juncture](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/tesla-is-losing-top-talent-and-burning-cash-at-a-critical-juncture.html)** > > Tesla is losing top talent, facing a cash crunch and drawing federal scrutiny. ---
**Author:** ![BigBeard](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/bigbeard/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@BigBeard](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/BigBeard)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/574 "2018-05-14T22:33:18Z")
> **[Tesla Bursts Into Flames After "Violent Crash" In Switzerland, Killing Driver...](https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-14/tesla-bursts-flames-after-violent-crash-switzerland-killing-driver-trapped-inside)** > > A 48-year-old German motorist died when his Telsa Model S crashed into a highway guardrail near the Swiss town of Bellinzona, and burst into flames trapping the driver. Burned Alive. ---
**Author:** ![bro1999](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bro1999/32/25763_2.png) [@bro1999](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/bro1999)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/575 "2018-05-14T23:08:56Z")
This is ludicrously out of control. RIP ---
**Author:** ![coss1600](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/coss1600/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@coss1600](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/coss1600)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/576 "2018-05-15T04:54:24Z")
Man you are so sad. It’s not healthy to be so obsessed and consumed by it. It’s only a car, you are not looking for a wife here. If you want one, just spend the money and buy it. There is no need to be so jealous and pity. ---
**Author:** ![BigBeard](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/bigbeard/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@BigBeard](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/BigBeard)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:00am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/577 "2018-05-15T05:00:26Z")
The entire point of this thread is to prove: EV are not the future Investment in Tesla will result in a loss Energy Storage of high capacity is very dangerous in vehicles (though people here somehow disagree…not sure what is going on in their head) AI and self-driving cars are gimmicks (grossly misrepresented) Elon Musk is a con artist (proved by blatant lying/misrepresenting) All facts are provided, yet people still refuse to believe. It is like trying to make people believe the Earth is spherical during the Dark ages. It is simply a discussion, where people refuse to believe facts, so we just keep posting more facts, and not opinions, which is how pro-Tesla people are using to think) ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jon/32/70934_2.png) [@Jon](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/578 "2018-05-15T05:03:05Z")
> [@BigBeard](#): > > EV are not the future I don’t like Elon and his lies, but that statement is so untrue. Pretty much all manufacturers will be moving towards EVs in the future. ---
**Author:** ![BigBeard](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/bigbeard/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@BigBeard](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/BigBeard)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/579 "2018-05-15T05:04:55Z")
As much as I would like to breathe clean air in the city - this simply cannot happen. I explained this a month or so ago as to why exactly. EV is not sustainable or practical. It will never dominate. ---
**Author:** ![coss1600](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/coss1600/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@coss1600](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/coss1600)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/580 "2018-05-15T05:34:58Z")
Air already smells better here, you might want to come out of your bunker and enjoy the fresh air. ---
**Author:** ![eelnoraa](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/eelnoraa/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@eelnoraa](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/eelnoraa)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/581 "2018-05-15T05:43:09Z")
I think EV is the future, but not in the form of the current EV, definitely not in the form of Tesla today. Same I do believe driverless car is the future, but not in anywhere close to Tesla’s auto pilot. The infrastructure will need to be considered, all at bigger scale. Personally, I don’t think Elon is a con artist yet. But I do think Tesla or Elon is not being responsible as a car manufacturer. It take safety standard and DPPM level way too liberal. I am not just referring to li-on battery fire or auto pilot, there are more ridiculous software miss incidents out there. Having that said, I have had a chance to drive a Model 3 on and off for a few weeks, The car or the concept of long range EV is actually growing on me. It is a very convenient car for commuting and shorter range trips. However, I still can’t get over Model3’s build quality and material at is price point. ---
**Author:** ![dfreshness](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/dfreshness/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@dfreshness](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/dfreshness)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/582 "2018-05-15T06:24:24Z")
Go back to elementary school and learn the difference between a fact and an opinion. ---
**Author:** ![XxHaimBondxX](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/xxhaimbondxx/32/6899_2.png) [@XxHaimBondxX](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/XxHaimBondxX)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/583 "2018-05-15T11:48:30Z")
As soon as there is a massive investment in charging network, I’m talking about on Eisenhower scale, gas powered cars can start their countdown to heaven. It could have made a nice work project in the Great Recession, but thankfully, another one is just around the corner. ---
**Author:** ![bro1999](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bro1999/32/25763_2.png) [@bro1999](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/bro1999)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/584 "2018-05-15T12:21:25Z")
Investors are getting antsy. > **[A Former Tesla Bull Just Dramatically Slashed His Price Target on the Stock](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-15/tesla-troubles-prompt-one-time-bull-to-keep-waving-caution-flag)** > > The cloud over Tesla continues to darken. ---
**Author:** ![bro1999](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bro1999/32/25763_2.png) [@bro1999](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/bro1999)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/585 "2018-05-15T12:24:56Z")
Tesla is going to be single handedly responsible for the NHTSA and NTSB blowing through their field investigations budgets for 2018. ---
**Author:** ![Ursus](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/ursus/32/4944_2.png) [@Ursus](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Ursus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/tesla-bankruptcy/38637/586 "2018-05-15T15:49:07Z")
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