# Signed: 2023 Nissan Ariya Evolve+ AWD "No Loyalty" Deal & Review \[NNJ Only\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Signed Deals & Tips\ **Tags:** nj, ev, nissan\ **Created:** [January 8, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099 "2024-01-08T18:48:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zenek](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/zenek/32/204361_2.png) [@Zenek](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Zenek)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/21 "2024-01-11T15:04:27Z")
Let me check Your post. TIA ---
**Author:** ![z0lt3c](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/z0lt3c/32/240006_2.png) [@z0lt3c](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/z0lt3c)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/22 "2024-01-11T15:42:35Z")
Updated offer for a Evo+ AWD deal: 275/mo $1800 DAS. > [@Zenek](#): > > Situation is very dynamic. This extra $1000 throws everything off. My dealer dropping the price by about $1000 but did not say why. Playing it off as “extra discount” ---
**Author:** ![themachine](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/themachine/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@themachine](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/themachine)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/23 "2024-01-11T16:15:17Z")
If they got to your price, what difference does it make if it’s coming out of Nissan’s pocket or the dealer’s? ---
**Author:** ![z0lt3c](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/z0lt3c/32/240006_2.png) [@z0lt3c](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/z0lt3c)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/24 "2024-01-11T16:25:52Z")
They did not get to my target price and if the manufacturer, mid-month, starts to offer more rebates it changes what the target price should be. They could be anywhere from $750 to $1750 above my target if this new incentive is true. ---
**Author:** ![Sydla](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/sydla/32/71327_2.png) [@Sydla](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Sydla)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/25 "2024-01-11T17:06:04Z")
I am in Southern NJ and just starting to hit up some dealers here for Ariya leases. Reading through this thread any other tips/tricks I should be looking out for? I like to put as little down as possible in a lease so if follow z0lt3c’s model, if I just put down the first months, I should be in the $350 range? ---
**Author:** ![gohawks23](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/gohawks23/32/191452_2.png) [@gohawks23](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/gohawks23)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/26 "2024-01-11T17:11:07Z")
> [@Sydla](#): > > any other tips Learn how to use the LH calc. ---
**Author:** ![z0lt3c](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/z0lt3c/32/240006_2.png) [@z0lt3c](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/z0lt3c)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/27 "2024-01-11T17:34:38Z")
Below is my latest calculator for Evo+ AWD trim at $56,300 MSRP. This is a 7.55% deal with the base MF and a total of $12,355 in rebates as follows: - $7,500 NMAC Lease Cash - $2,855 18-month Ariya Lease Cash - $1,000 EV Bonus Cash - $1,000 Select Inventory Bonus Cash This most likely includes the rumored mid-month bonus cash as part of the discount. Note that many dealers are playing games with the rebates, to make the discount seem inflated. Case in point, this dealer is presenting this deal as $11,355 in rebates with a 9.3% discount. This does not include loyalty. > **[Leasehackr Calculator - Hack your next lease | Leasehackr](https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make=Nissan&miles=10000&msrp=56300&sales_price=52052&months=18&mf=.00136&msd=0&dp=0&dealer_fee=499&acq_fee=695&disp_fee=395&taxed_inc=12355&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=65®_fee=191&sales_tax=0&demo_mileage=0&memo=&tradein=0&fin_sp=0&fin_taxed_fee=0&fin_untaxed_fee=0&fin_term=60&fin_apr=1.85&fin_dp=0&fin_rebate=0&fin_ps_rebate=0&keep_term=60&exp_rv=0&acqFee_check=true&totalLeaseTax_radio=true&bmw_demo_25=true&lease_result_mode=true)** > > Score the best deal with real-time lease and finance data on demand and the ultimate lease/finance calculator trusted by America’s expert leasing community. ---
**Author:** ![Sydla](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/sydla/32/71327_2.png) [@Sydla](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Sydla)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/28 "2024-01-12T13:20:21Z")
Thanks for the info. This would be my first EV and I think an 18 month lease would be perfect as if I just have concerns, I am not tied to the car for too long. But with the rebates and low payment, tying in PSEG’s $1500 rebate to install an EV charger, now seems like the time to make a move. ---
**Author:** ![z0lt3c](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/z0lt3c/32/240006_2.png) [@z0lt3c](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/z0lt3c)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/29 "2024-01-12T19:16:22Z")
Signed! Here is the final calculator, reflecting the rebates and discount as presented by the dealer. In addition to the EVGO account, Ariya also comes with a voucher for a free wall box connector. Did I leave $$ on the table? Yes. I didn’t feel the need to grind the deal any further. I would not be surprised to see a deal $1000 cheaper. > **[Leasehackr Calculator - Hack your next lease | Leasehackr](https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make=Nissan&miles=10000&msrp=56300&sales_price=51090&months=18&mf=.00136&msd=0&dp=1526&dealer_fee=449&acq_fee=695&disp_fee=395&taxed_inc=11355&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=65®_fee=302.5&sales_tax=0&demo_mileage=0&memo=&tradein=0&fin_sp=0&fin_taxed_fee=0&fin_untaxed_fee=0&fin_term=60&fin_apr=1.85&fin_dp=0&fin_rebate=0&fin_ps_rebate=0&keep_term=60&exp_rv=0&totalLeaseTax_radio=true&bmw_demo_25=true&lease_result_mode=true&dealerFee_check=false&govFee_check=false)** > > Score the best deal with real-time lease and finance data on demand and the ultimate lease/finance calculator trusted by America’s expert leasing community. ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/1/6/16ccbf1ab1ba8acc05f7479966dc99c6f766545d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SzaroJr](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/szarojr/32/178607_2.png) [@SzaroJr](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/SzaroJr)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/30 "2024-01-12T19:48:07Z")
Congrats and best of luck! ---
**Author:** ![Hypnotics](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/hypnotics/32/128476_2.png) [@Hypnotics](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Hypnotics)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/31 "2024-01-12T23:39:13Z")
Has this been confirmed, that the dealer cash increased to $2k? ---
**Author:** ![Zenek](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/zenek/32/204361_2.png) [@Zenek](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Zenek)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/32 "2024-01-13T00:37:43Z")
I did not ask. Got the deal $276/m with $276 DAS and picking up tomorrow. I will have contract tomorrow so i can confirm. ---
**Author:** ![z0lt3c](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/z0lt3c/32/240006_2.png) [@z0lt3c](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/z0lt3c)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/33 "2024-01-13T00:40:56Z")
![PXL_20240112_232602380](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/2/a/2af0185290e3d2a54abee01be2c33ac69e18827f.jpeg) Review coming later tonight. ---
**Author:** ![CPJ](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/cpj/32/57807_2.png) [@CPJ](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/CPJ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/34 "2024-01-13T02:10:37Z")
Where is this? Anywhere near Syracuse? ---
**Author:** ![Zenek](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/zenek/32/204361_2.png) [@Zenek](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Zenek)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/35 "2024-01-13T04:25:14Z")
This is is available if anyone interested. Not far from Syracuse. > [@2023 Nissan Ariya Venture+ $48,xxx MSRP. $70/m for NJ ? Is this real? What did I calculate wrong?](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/available-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-e4orce-339-m/519251): > > Edit: \*\* 1.15.24 1am\*\* Going to speak with the dealer today It will be for my family member in NJ registration with Loyalty Is this possible to achieve with NJ registration? ---
**Author:** ![shinseiromeo](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/shinseiromeo/32/179390_2.png) [@shinseiromeo](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/shinseiromeo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/36 "2024-01-13T04:59:46Z")
I’d do it tonight if it was real. Doesn’t make sense how PA residents get quoted $600/m while NJ or NY which is an hour from me is half the price. I’m only seeing an extra few thousand in rebates or no tax in NJ. The numbers don’t add up to make the monthly half. Just spoke to a MD dealer who had a color combo I wanted. Was quoted $550/m at 36/10k. ---
**Author:** ![themachine](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/themachine/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@themachine](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/themachine)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/37 "2024-01-13T05:03:33Z")
> [@shinseiromeo](#): > > an extra few thousand in rebates An extra few thousand makes a big difference when it’s only 18 months. $3,865/18 = $215/mo, not including the rent charge savings on a lower cap cost. ---
**Author:** ![z0lt3c](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/z0lt3c/32/240006_2.png) [@z0lt3c](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/z0lt3c)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:15am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/38 "2024-01-13T05:15:47Z")
This morning I took delivery of a new 2023 Nissan Ariya Evolve+ AWD and immediately embarked on a 360-mile trip from PA to NJ to VT. **What I like about the Ariya.** > Super smooth, comfortable ride. > Good power at highway speeds and good grip in wet conditions. > A very functional and modern interior. Looks sharp. > A real sunroof that opens and closes. > ProAssist (basic) is fantastic. No eye monitoring. > The hidden middle console (snack draw) is alot of fun. > Teenager had no complaints with second row. > Fit all our gear, but just barely. > Very east to drive w/o jerkyness. Can glide intuitively. > Good regenerative braking / one-pedal performance with e-stop plus and B mode > Lots of places to store and charge phones. > Virtual analog gauge dashboard meter view is pretty cool looking. > Walk away lock and open with proximity work well. **What I didn’t like about the Ariya:** > Battery melting range loss when driven aggressively. > aka The only way to get the range is to drive 60mph. > aka Range is BS. My efficiency average was 2.7 miles/kw > aka I only got 174 miles from 15% to 85% > Disappointing DCFC speed. Got 90K at Albany EA, 40 mins to get from 15% to 83% > Not the best software and UI. Very hard to plan routes w/ Nissan system. > Narrow seats, not enough lumbar or thigh support > OEM Dunlop tires are loud. Cabin needs more sound dampening. > Behavior of brake pedal is odd. Close pedals. > No phone as key, app is pretty basic overall. Overall, it’s a serious contender against the Model Y. It gets right many of the things that bother first time EV drivers and would be great where range under 200 miles is sufficient. I also looked at VW ID.4 Pro AWD, and the fit and finish of the Nissan was much better. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Ioniq 6 are both probably better EVs, but the style of the Hyundai’s is difficult for some. It has no business being compared to a BMW IX, the experience is worlds apart, and even an I4 is a punching class above it. In the end, I think it’s a good value in the $300/mo range, or less, especially on a short-term lease, a price point which the Model Y cannot compete. ![PXL_20240113_002230215](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/b/1/b1e34d2315daf3975c455e34d00fc991ad2026b2.jpeg) ![PXL_20240113_001653565](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/b/2/b26c03283a9f74b5e50b2049802d37344f6aaca9.jpeg) Also, the free wallbox connector is for real. Here is my pricing for the Pulsar Plus 48A. ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/0/7/07a972eb991091f19a46901ee801d743af264981.png) ---
**Author:** ![coolmann](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/coolmann/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@coolmann](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/coolmann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/39 "2024-01-13T11:44:02Z")
Now if only ChargeUp NJ was funded this month. These would be flying off the shelves. ---
**Author:** ![bimmer\_king](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bimmer_king/32/106754_2.png) [@bimmer\_king](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/bimmer_king)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099/40 "2024-01-13T14:13:56Z")
Thanks for the datapoints and motivation. Was able to sign on two similar deals in the northeast. Got an Evolve for $236/m sign and drive and a Platinum+ for $220/m. [Previous page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-nissan-ariya-evolve-awd-no-loyalty-deal-review-nnj-only/522099.md?page=3)