# Shouting match with dealer over Kia lease selling fiasco **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask the Hackrs\ **Tags:** ca-socal, ca\ **Created:** [June 15, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208 "2023-06-15T04:20:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lease543](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/lease543/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@lease543](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lease543)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/1 "2023-06-15T04:20:00Z")
I have a 2021 Kia forte GT-line in very good condition with 4.7k miles on it. My lease is expiring in about 4 months. The current residual is 14.9l. I went to two dealerships and I was able to negotiated and sell my Kia for 20.5k HOWEVER A. Dealer A claimed that Kia charges them 2k when they buyout leases. So instead of 5.6k in my pocket (20.5 - 14.9), I would end up with 3.7k (20.5 - 16.9). B. Dealer B said that the rule above only applied if you were trading into a non-kia dealer. So I should end up with (20.5 - 14.9), 5.6k. However when I asked for the exact amout that I would be pocketing in writing, they got mad, said “you can do simple subtraction” and said “if you don’t like it go somewhere else.” ---
**Author:** ![Harry657ha](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/harry657ha/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Harry657ha](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Harry657ha)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/2 "2023-06-15T04:22:15Z")
So what’s the issue? You are free to go somewhere else and it probably would be wise to do so any ways ---
**Author:** ![lease543](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/lease543/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@lease543](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lease543)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/3 "2023-06-15T04:23:26Z")
My issue is I don’t know what’s correct? Is that a legit thing or was I being scammed? If they’re just making up fees or is this standard practice. I don’t want to go somewhere else and have the same issue ---
**Author:** ![Harry657ha](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/harry657ha/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Harry657ha](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Harry657ha)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/4 "2023-06-15T04:27:34Z")
Not sure but maybe you can reach out to these people and see the numbers they give you. They are on leasehackr. There are others who buy cars but not sure where to find them on the website. Maybe someone else can find them. > [@Lease end buyouts for Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Hyundai, KIA, Mercedes, Nissan ALL LEASE RESTRICTED LENDER BUYOUTS ALL STATES](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/lease-end-buyouts-for-audi-bmw-infiniti-hyundai-kia-mercedes-nissan-all-lease-restricted-lender-buyouts-all-states/400557): > > Hi Everyone! Please reach out to us if you’re coming up to the end of your lease. We’d be happy to buy out your lease and help you avoid the turn in fees, taxes, excess mileage fees and in most cases help you get equity from your lease considering the current market! Reach out to me at 949-544-1669 or email [anthony@dsrleasing.com](mailto:anthony@dsrleasing.com) . [https://dsrleasing.com/lease-end-buyout-leasehackr/](https://dsrleasing.com/lease-end-buyout-leasehackr/) Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Chi\_Ahrens](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/chi_ahrens/32/32644_2.png) [@Chi\_Ahrens](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Chi_Ahrens)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/5 "2023-06-15T04:32:03Z")
Not uncommon. VW definitely gives a discounted price for VW dealers. ---
**Author:** ![lease543](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/lease543/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@lease543](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lease543)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/6 "2023-06-15T04:42:35Z")
But why would this apply is both were Kia dealers?, I just can’t tell who’s telling the truth ---
**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 5:39am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/7 "2023-06-15T05:39:39Z")
> [@lease543](#): > > I just can’t tell who’s telling the truth One is lying and the other doesn’t want to put anything in writing. You need a different dealer. ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/8 "2023-06-15T11:29:20Z")
> [@Chi\_Ahrens](#): > > VW definitely gives a discounted price for VW dealers. Ive never heard of this with Hyundai financial though. ---
**Author:** ![Qbrozen](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/qbrozen/32/40846_2.png) [@Qbrozen](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Qbrozen)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/9 "2023-06-15T11:45:50Z")
Where is the shouting match I was promised? ---
**Author:** ![forbs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/forbs/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@forbs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/forbs)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/10 "2023-06-15T12:10:39Z")
Damn Youtube clickbait title ---
**Author:** ![Ursus](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/ursus/32/4944_2.png) [@Ursus](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Ursus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/11 "2023-06-15T12:40:43Z")
> [@lease543](#): > > However when I asked for the exact amout that I would be pocketin The only thing you need from that dealer in writing is the _selling price_, not the _exact_ amount you will be pocketing. They do not know the _exact_ payoff amount at this point (it changes daily), but they can get it, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Zenek](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/zenek/32/204361_2.png) [@Zenek](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Zenek)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/12 "2023-06-15T12:52:55Z")
Get a quote from RODO. They can buy KIA lease without bite and switch game. ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/13 "2023-06-15T13:30:30Z")
Get a quote from everyone on this list. The first step towards figuring out your equity is to determine the value of the car first. > [@List of places to sell or value your car online](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/list-of-places-to-sell-or-value-your-car-online/396451): > > For the quickest results: Copy your VIN to your clipboard and just paste it into each site. Quicker than plate lookup. Enter “I own the vehicle” where applicable — you don’t need to get into the details of your lease payoff or loan balance until you’ve eventually chosen one entity to sell to. Use a Google Voice or some other device you can turn off at will. Otherwise your real phone will be bombarded initially. In alphabetical order: Buyer Name Direct Link Review Link AutoCo… ---
**Author:** ![forbs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/forbs/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@forbs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/forbs)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/14 "2023-06-15T13:33:23Z")
@Anthony_Lopez at DSR will buy your Kia, give him a chance to give you a price [https://dsrleasing.com/trade-in-1/](https://dsrleasing.com/trade-in-1/) ---
**Author:** ![Dfg](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/dfg/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Dfg](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Dfg)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/15 "2023-06-15T14:12:05Z")
> [@lease543](#): > > “if you don’t like it go somewhere else.” Exactly 202020 ---
**Author:** ![TypeSH](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/typesh/32/58696_2.png) [@TypeSH](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/TypeSH)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/16 "2023-06-15T14:34:41Z")
What are you getting to replace it? Please tell me you’re not doing all this effort just to overpay on leasing a new Forte. ---
**Author:** ![lease543](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/lease543/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@lease543](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lease543)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/17 "2023-06-15T14:44:22Z")
No I need to get rid of the car completely. Moving out of state ---
**Author:** ![Harry657ha](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/harry657ha/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Harry657ha](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Harry657ha)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/18 "2023-06-15T14:45:15Z")
Then why are you going to a Kia dealer? Third party buyout not allowed? ---
**Author:** ![lease543](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/lease543/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@lease543](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lease543)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/19 "2023-06-15T14:46:26Z")
I went to 2 dealerships, and matched offers on Carvana and Carmax. General consensus is car is worth 20-21k. Kelly blue book is putting the car at around 22k. I have no problem getting rid of it at 20-21k, I just don’t like how the final amount I would be netting wouldn’t be listed on paper. ---
**Author:** ![lease543](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/lease543/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@lease543](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lease543)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208/20 "2023-06-15T14:47:41Z")
Kia finance doesn’t allow Carvana or Vroom to buyout the lease anymore. I could buy the car myself but have to take into account the tax, title, registration fee. [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/shouting-match-with-dealer-over-kia-lease-selling-fiasco/476208.md?page=2)