Ehh…
I’d get jehu to cobble me up one out of a 85 or 90 salvage pack before I ever overpay Tesla for a powerwall.
Ehh…
I’d get jehu to cobble me up one out of a 85 or 90 salvage pack before I ever overpay Tesla for a powerwall.
yeah I can only imagine how great it must have felt to give $500 in permit fees.
But yeah it’s always gonna end up in the GC or Builders pocket.
I bet allot work is done on the DL
And the college/cam girl right?
Since weve been talking regional differences in this thread-----
The permit cost for the entire 12.2 kW PV system on my house in FL was like $210, plus they nicked me for some other $10 county fee
Many of the data center projects I have managed in years past have been in Sacramento. We always add a “California Fee” when we develop the cost estimates. When I have looked through some of the permit matrices (granted these are data center projects that are somewhat complicated) and tried to fully comprehend them, I have needed a couple of Advil.
The same scope project in Tampa is easily 1/3 less in overall cost.
Tesla charges a flat fee for solar, battery they go by city. For my solar project, I made out because I had a difficult install. For battery they will come out ahead
Meaning for the design? Or design/permit and they cover the cost no matter what the municipality charges?
Yup it was when I bought it in dec. I believe small system was 10700 flat
$10,700 installed soup to nuts for what size system?
3.7kw it’s the lowest from the big guys. Also it appears they give a small discount for doing them both together. I cheap out and didn’t, now I have to pay 2k more. There goes my $1000 car payment
yeah I can imagine, California just loves its permit fees. Never seen so many senseless fees packed into permits. it’s all a money grab anyway but California takes the cake for unneccessary fees.
It isss what it isss.
Eww. No. Home-built with off the shelf all day long but as a landlord also I’m inclined to not overpay when I can absolutely avoid it!
The Tesla PV systems definitely have the cool factor going for them, plus ease of install (as in you pay them their flat fee and they take care of whatever needs to be taken care of), but if one is a moderately handy person with electrical/mechanical type stuff, you can save a ton of money doing it yourself. The quotes I received for my size system from solar PV contractors were in the 30 to 35K range, I did everything myself for around 16K (and then received the 30% federal tax credit as well). if memory serves the total system cost out of my pocket ended up being about $0.85 or $0.90 per Watt. Even in my part of the country where energy costs are relatively low, the payback was around 4 years.
Fun thread. After all the quantitative analysis above for living in California, I feel compelled to mention the qualitative aspects when comparing life to living in metros like NY and Chicago.
The weather in the Bay Area and parts of SoCal is the best you’ll find in the nation. Couple that with increasing climate temps and it may be one of the last few bearable metro areas to live in a decade from now.
Mix that in with a range of outdoor water/snow/dirt/wind activities, diverse foods, and great air quality (in certain parts), then it’s easy to see why the prices are what they are.
Sure, earthquakes and fires can be a wet blanket but so can floods, tornadoes, hail, ice, and other natural disasters that aren’t seen in most of California.
Traffic is a whole ‘nuther story but looking forward to autonomous tech and a “new normal” with remote work becoming far more common.
You get what you pay for.
That said, Sydney Australia beats the US on all measures above. I’d move there in a heartbeat if my family was down there. But I’d miss scoring sweet lease hacks because you get more than what you pay for.
To each their own. But I find San Diego’s claim to “70 degrees all year round” to be one of the most over-rated things ever.
I need seasons. I want to see colors change. The first snowfall of the year.
And I need periodic rain… driving in rain is one of the best kinds of driving.
I felt the same way until I lived here 3 months. 35 years of seasons was plenty, I travel enough to visit them.
We get that now. Lots in the last couple years. I sit out on the back porch and watch it when we do, it’s become a novelty.
During all this madness it’s been nice to have sunshine almost every day and work from my back yard.
And I find it to be false!
Granted, I really do enjoy visiting California, (and I lived there near LA many many moons ago while in college), but many of the “endless summer” California Dreamin’ type of assumptions arent true reality. Not to pump Florida, but Central/South Florida is much better for all that kind of stuff (beach weather, etc.). Most of the year at a California beach, you will freeze your rear off.
Alternately, perhaps I am simply jealous as I secretly wish to live in Carmel by the Sea😁