This is like when a pickup truck guy decides to get a 5 inch lift and 37 inch mud boggers and complains about how his apartment parking lot built eons ago didnt build wide enough parking spots for outdoors folk like themselves.
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Well the consumer is using the electricity… so they would pay more…
No state govt is forcing anyone to do that. But several states are forcing renters to buy silly little electric toy cars. See the diff?
If you were good at planning, you’d probably not be living in an apartment.
I kid, I kid.
I don’t understand this logic. Most renters don’t have a place to plug in, so why would plug-in hybrids be a good alternative?
I rent in San Diego, almost no complex or parking garage that me or my friends live in has electric car charging. It is a PITA to charge, and it’s stupid to pay extra money in gasoline to lug around heavy empty batteries.
Opportunity charging.
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Regular hybrids would be a better bet at that point.
There are few opportunities to charge even in a heavily populated metropolitan area - in an extremely liberal green EV-pushing state at that.
Charging infrastructure is the biggest joke and oversight that nobody will talk about. If you don’t own your own home — which if you’re in California you probably don’t — or you’re living somewhere like Victorville.
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The fundamental issue for renters is speed. You will never have an apartment complex build a charging station for every parking spot in the complex. So what you need is speedy public (public in the sense anyone can use it, not publicly owned) charging to make it no different than getting gas. In an out of the gas station in 5 minutes turns to in an out of the charging station in 5 minutes. Until that happens, renting an apartment and owning an EV is not going to be viable.
HEV probably would be better suited, as its designed not to be wall-charged and the ADM isnt as crazy. PHEV you want to charge those for max efficiency, but its not going to a complete halt if you decide to ignore plugging it in like say a pure EV.
No I dont actually. No state gov is demanding anyone to purchase pure EVs today. Cali is what 2035 new car ban, 2050 used car ban? If one decides to personally one up that future ban, and apply it to themselves today, in a triumph for the environment at the cost of the sanity…idk?
The issue of whether EV charging was covered as a part of included utilities lead to a lawsuit at a fancy Senior Living complex near me.
https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/harris-v-university-village-844861787
Hey, what’s wrong with Victorville?
You really don’t see the difference between Cali banning ICE cars in 8 years and someone getting a 5 inch truck lift kit? LOL. OK man. I honestly have nothing to add.
It’s not just Klownifornia. Nationwide, 62% of people under 35 rent. Of course some of that group rents SFHs or apartments with garages. But you have to figure at least 50% live in an apartment without the ability to charge at home. It’s the one teenie tiny flaw in the plan to get everyone driving Teslas by 2030.
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That’s where the southern end of the Las Vegas to “Los Angeles” high speed train was going to be. Boom times were just around the corner for that burg.
Don’t get me started on that blatantly corrupt project.
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This stupidity was first announced as part of Obama’s “infrastructure” bill, a mere 13 years ago. Now, billions of dollars later not a foot of track has actually been laid down. Now, Brightline wants in on the grift, lol. Prediction: In 2025 there will still be zero.zero feet of track laid.
This is where your tax dollars are going:
With the new plan, a passenger could board a Metrolink commuter train at L.A.’s downtown Union Station, transfer to a Brightline West train at Rancho Cucamonga and be in Las Vegas in three and a half hours.
Wow!! 3.5 hours to take a train when you can fly in an hour. Brilliant!
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A high speed train sounds great in theory. I find it insane that we’re the worlds wealthiest country and don’t have anything sophisticated to rival the trains in Japan or Europe. I can get why people would vote to approve that.
In practice, slimy politicians and construction companies now have a money laundering scheme to funnel taxpayer money into their own pockets.
We will never learn.
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It’s not a good idea in theory or in practice. You can fly between any of the airports in SoCal (LAX, BUR, SNA, ONT, LGB) and Las Vegas in an hour. There are multiple flights on multiple airlines between these airport pairs every hour of every day. There is zero need for a train that will take, in a best case scenario, 3 hours to cover the same distance.
And yes it takes less time at a train station vs an airport to check in, get to a gate, etc. So shave off 30 mins on each end for that. It’s still in a best case scenario over twice as long to make the trip. And will absolutely guaranteed by more expensive. A round trip between LAS and the airports above can be had for $200 all in, even $150 if you book ahead of time and go off season. The high speed train will need to be double that just to break even.
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ok fair, but going through TSA @ LAX, then @ LAS is quite a bit more than the usual hop-on-a-train in-Europe vibe I’ve experienced
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Yes you’re right that’s how it currently works out, but look at it this way:
The quickest Japanese trains can travel at 370mph (usually cruising at ~180mph). Vegas is 270 miles away from LA, so you’re looking at ~1hr ish to get that route completed.
Maglev trains are more efficient than a tin can being shot airborne.
Combine that with not having to be molested by the TSA, and not having to sit at the arrival gate watching people slowly meander and take their luggage out of the overhead bins. I’d rather be on a train. If only we could figure out how to build one.
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