# Off-Topic Landfill 6

**URL:** <https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780>\
**Category:** Off-Ramp\
**Created:** [January 26, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780 "2023-01-26T01:33:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![li8625](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/li8625/32/222746_2.png) [@li8625](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/li8625)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1674 "2024-09-25T16:16:43Z")

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Man, if you wanna torture yourself just go find me a GT3RS or something. This site got you looking for loaner minivans…

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**Author:** ![holeydonut](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/holeydonut/32/146662_2.png) [@holeydonut](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/holeydonut)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1675 "2024-09-25T16:18:59Z")

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There’s no good way to search for Porsches. Just keep harassing @wam22

You can get into a 911 GT3 tomorrow if you swap out all your BMW’s for a Toyota Sienna.

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**Author:** ![li8625](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/li8625/32/222746_2.png) [@li8625](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/li8625)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1676 "2024-09-25T16:23:57Z")

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I told him that I’ll sell one of my rental houses if he gets me a GT3RS at MSRP. He left me on read… /sarcasm

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**Author:** ![holeydonut](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/holeydonut/32/146662_2.png) [@holeydonut](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/holeydonut)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1677 "2024-09-25T16:28:06Z")

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Are you sure you have enough skill to even drive a GT3RS? I’ve seen your skill trying to negotiate leases, and everything just points to maybe you should stick with M Lites and minivans.

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**Author:** ![li8625](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/li8625/32/222746_2.png) [@li8625](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/li8625)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1678 "2024-09-25T16:37:36Z")

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I got just the right amount of kids to be able to fit them into a 911 992.2 GTS… Minivans not needed!

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**Author:** ![lala77](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/lala77/32/72397_2.png) [@lala77](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lala77)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1681 "2024-09-25T21:51:53Z")

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Congratulations! Can you share dealership or contact person info? I would love to jump on the same car, same deal. DM is fine.

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**Author:** ![ng10](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/ng10/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@ng10](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/ng10)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1682 "2024-09-26T01:47:05Z")

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Hi,  
Is this still available ? Please DM me.

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**Author:** ![smnlng](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/smnlng/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@smnlng](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/smnlng)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1683 "2024-08-19T02:38:14Z")

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Can I ask which dealer in WA? Thanks

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**Author:** ![Mina\_Lee](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mina_lee/32/202119_2.png) [@Mina\_Lee](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Mina_Lee)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1684 "2024-09-26T03:54:51Z")

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Wow I am in WA and could not find good deals, could you let me know which dealer you got this deal from? I would appreciate that. I called 4 in WA and it hasn’t come close to your deal.

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**Author:** ![Ursus](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/ursus/32/4944_2.png) [@Ursus](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Ursus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1686 "2024-09-26T13:59:05Z")

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These ghetto wheels… 😄

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**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1687 "2024-09-26T14:02:33Z")

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Not sure why you deleted your post?

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**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1688 "2024-09-13T14:29:20Z")

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Breakdown of rebates?

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**Author:** ![holeydonut](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/holeydonut/32/146662_2.png) [@holeydonut](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/holeydonut)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1689 "2024-09-13T16:10:15Z")

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Thought lease support ended on 2023 XM

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**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1690 "2024-09-13T16:20:27Z")

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No it’s still there.

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**Author:** ![NorCalHackr](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/norcalhackr/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@NorCalHackr](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/NorCalHackr)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1691 "2024-09-13T16:44:40Z")

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What do you think would be a reasonable discount on a 2023 with 13XX miles? The one in Alexandria was 35% off.

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**Author:** ![holeydonut](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/holeydonut/32/146662_2.png) [@holeydonut](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/holeydonut)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1692 "2024-09-13T17:03:15Z")

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If only @li8625 spent less time on LH and more time pinging dealers for XM.

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**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1693 "2024-09-13T17:25:23Z")

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> [@New Cars for Sale - Leads from LHers!](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/new-cars-for-sale-leads-from-lhers/439288/2741):
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> Edit: When I put the numbers into the LH calculator, it was coming out to the $900s

Was that after subtracting any purchase incentives from the advertised selling price?

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**Author:** ![AS001](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/as001/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@AS001](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/AS001)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1694 "2024-09-13T17:37:37Z")

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I was under the assumption that all the incentives I qualified for were not included in the advertised selling price. I never had a chance to confirm that with a dealer or not.

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**Author:** ![holeydonut](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/holeydonut/32/146662_2.png) [@holeydonut](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/holeydonut)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1695 "2024-09-13T17:48:14Z")

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Dealers behave in two distinct ways when listing prices on their website.

Initially, they’ll just show the MSRP, and leave it up to the buyer to figure out what rebates, discounts, etc need to be considered to achieve a transaction price.

But when dealers want to entice action on certain units, they’ll wildly swing the other way and bake in every single factory incentive, dealer cash, lease cash, EV cash, military, whatever discount they can drum up show the lowest possible price.

My gut is this BMW dealer chose the latter when showing pricing on this loaner XM.

Also, it sounds like you’d be interested in some sort of regulation around accurate disclosures as to which rebates, discounts, and incentives are included in an advertised price. Too bad such attempts at transparency are being challenged by NADA and certain state reps as being too difficult and too costly to implement.

> [@FTC CARS Rule addressing vehicle advertising and other car-buying issues](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/ftc-cars-rule-addressing-vehicle-advertising-and-other-car-buying-issues/576943):
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> Whether you’re in favor of consumer protection or against consumer laws, it’s worth getting up to speed on what is happening here since it’s likely going to affect the Hackrs. Quick background as I understand it: coming out of the pandemic, the FTC started to field a number of consumer complaints around dealer practices. Most often the issue was around advertising and pricing, but there were also issues during the sales process with undisclosed/misrepresented fees and other profit-taking pract…

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**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/off-topic-landfill-6/447780/1696 "2024-09-13T17:54:59Z")

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Maybe not conditional rebates. But any universal purchase rebate is 99.99% guaranteed to be in the advertised selling price.

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