So you want us to not use the leasehacker site for exactly what it was made to do? You may be the only broker on here that actually delivers vehicles, as you have said the rest sell phone numbers.
Five years ago this site was filled with all these brokers chasing M3 unicorns so i think your crocodile tears wont be wiped up this time.
Leasehackr 
leasebrokr
Someone clever bought leasebrokr dot com
I donât get it, why do you care? People chase they chase âŚ
Also, if youâre no broker fee, how do you make money? Nobody is volunteering ⌠is that clearly disclosed?
Just asking
@Michael â you might want an attorney to review whether sharing customer information is beyond the scope of legality
As stated earlier in this thread it appears some brokers are potentially sharing personal information about customers in various channels on this forum
Also, are all the brokers licensed? â You should provide a a trusted broker badge and route payments via LH â Also, offer remediation as some brokers may not have a great sense of goodwill or what green sky is lolâŚ
Are we saying LH has a material effect on the market? I would have thought itâs a fly on an elephants ass.
What percent of the car buying public are lease nerds, let alone can walk and run a lease calculator at the same time?
I hear your point, I just donât understand why youâre taking it personally.
You used to post some amazingly low / cheap ARIYA deals. Like they were so low, Iâd hear other people complaining about how you specifically were doing something to undercut the market. Was it NJ tax credits? Was it some weird voodoo shit? I donât know.
Basically you made an unrealistic expectation of net pricing on cars that others could not match. And later on, you would do the same with KIA and some other brands. But you seemed cool with it because, well⌠it wasnât personal. Youâre moving metal.
From the other perspective, your low pricing was driving leads to other people. Whether they could convert those leads in their âlocal marketâ was not your problem. And I donât think youâre one to shed a tear if someone else struggles to close a price-sensitive bottom-feeder into a Kia.
There are a ton of examples on LH where someone posts some ridiculously stupid deal and kicks off a frenzy. The frenzy makes you money one way or another even if itâs annoying at the time of the frenzy since at that exact moment in time, your ability to price match is low.
But where thereâs frenzy, thereâs demand. And eventually stuff sorts out. Kind of like March Madness with the EQS. Bottom feeders swooped up some bargains that were not replicable the coming month. Were other MB Brokers super pissed while they watched folks flex their cheap-ass EQS on net pricing they couldnât match? Sure. But eventually others buy into the frenzy and take EQS in April and May at higher net pricing.
Frenzy helps sell cars. It may result in a bunch of fallout of your sales funnel, but it puts people into the funnel. Where I come from, people bitch to no end about how Marketing, BDRâs, and SDRâs donât drum up enough leads. So I canât really empathize with the anger about your lead quality due to a XC90 Flex.
Again keep running your mouth. @michael told me to tone it down so I have but you keep talking about me, donât think twice anymore. You call practically every member who doesnât agree with a moron or an idiot. You donât think thatâs personal attack?
Please try me one more time.
Iâm not talking about you, man. Nowhere did i mention you, at all. While you have actually cursed at me in prior threads, also documented. Carry on. The nonsense you started in this thread, regarding your xc90 âequityâ, is just that - nonsense. I was correct in calling it out. You stated a false fact.
If the deal is signed and funded, it is a real data point. You can blame VFS for creating the framework for a deal like this to fund, but it doesnât make it âillegitimateâ after all the contract is between the customer and the bank, not you and the customer. If you are basing your livelihood on a free internet forum, that is a risk that you take as a business owner and a stranger with 7 highly undesirable cars at laughably low rates owes you nothing to ensure your livelihood. You should be pricing into your fee or kickback months that you canât sell cars due to bad programs - this is no different.
I agree with everything you wrote, up to this point. The people it brings into the funnel, if any, are not the people youâd want. Not every lead is worth the same. There are good leads, and there are nonsensical leads. The vast overwhelming majority of the leads this âfrenzyâ you describe are straight shift+delete.
Yeah because you wonât tag me because you hide behind Michael to save you. You speak about me thinking I wonât see it. I have MANY MANY people from this website all think the same of you. Change up your tone with clients and maybe you can make something of yourself in life.
I donât get why there is any issue with someone posting a unicorn deal? If someone is able to pull off a car for $50 even if the going rate for that car is $100, are they supposed to just keep quiet and not post about it because guys selling it for $100 donât want people coming and asking for the same deal? Eventually, if the $50 price is truly a unicorn deal that is not repeatable, people will be forced to go along with the prior $100 market priceâŚ
nothing wrong with people posting real unicorn deals
Unicorn deals are just that - Unicorns. It really doesnât matter since only a few people will be able to get it and the rest would have to go to a broker to get the market price. Afaik, this website has always been about people posting their insane deals and others trying to replicate it, with some succeeding and the others settling for market price. As long as the deals that heâs posting are real, then why is that an issue?
This thread made me LOL. This forum is made exactly for that - posting unicorn deals. Plenty of leads out there. Yeah, not all will be deals, but its up to you a broker to convert it to a deal. As a broker, I answer every single person, even if they reached out to me 50 times about 50 cars. Thats the job lololol
This is too funny. The accusation isnât even that @djrabbi is lying about his deal. Itâs that he shouldnât post his unicorns at the risk of making other overpriced cars even less desirable.
Weâve seen $200 EQSs but people are still selling EQSs
Weâve seen $450 iXs but people are still selling iXs
Weâve seen $500 Macans and Taycans but people are still selling Porsches
Weâve seen $500 RS etrons but people still ate them up at $1000+
We wouldâve stopped talking about XC90s by now if it didnât become an all out war
Agreed - nothing is owed to brokers here. Not only is the site intended to offer more than just a space for brokers to solicit business, but there are a lot of brokers who have cropped up on this site who are getting away with regularly posting very average deals. I find more value in the unicorn posts as a way to develop negotiation strategy (even if I canât match it) than I do reviewing 700 Porsche (for exampleâŚ) lease deals posted in the marketplace that are, if Iâm being generous, average.
since youâre trying to define my job for me, is the job also hitting up other brokers and asking if their deals are ârealâ, while also asking to fleet cars out to you so you can make an unlimited amount of upside while paying them a few breadcrumbs for their relationships? tell me - genuinely interested.
happy you take every inquiry though. someone who values his time doing this shouldnât have to. there are only so many minutes in the day.
Lmaoo. thatâs how business works - making connections and relationships. You clearly wouldnât know what that is as you bash every post on this forum. If you âvaluedâ your time so much, you wouldnât be talking shit on every other post.
Stop being a troll - go sell some cars 
And for the record, I work with many brokers on this forum. Wanted to work with you as well but you were too high and mighty to work with a broker. Itâs people like you that make us look bad.
I am still not understanding why this broker archoni thinks people are obligated to give him business. Who doesnât want to save money and earn more ? Trying to save money and share knowledge is the essence of this site. I doubt making money by broker. Brokers are here because the customers are here. You make money from customers who want decent deal and no time for back and forth at deales. Period.
Is (was) ABA not a Volvo promotion? Why would broker cry over discount mfg offered? Volvo did not see the loophole before partnering with ABA and ended making 2k less per vehicle sold. Why is this guy crying foul. I would never give a business to someone who calls customers bottom feeders.