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Not everybody wants to, needs to, or can live like everybody else!

Edit: got Mad Online and said something stupid

Been there done that. In a sense it is like being back in college, stuck on campus and surrounding area. You basically live in a bubble. I have lived over 20 years in 3 of the top 5 most populated cities in US, always had a vehicle of some sort.

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Check out how Zipcar flex works in London, it’s beautiful. I would drive into zone 1 and take public transit home and avoid traffic both directions. They’re all electric, so it reduces emissions tremendously too, and allows for much more efficient usage of available land/roads, for parking, transit, etc

(Riding public transport after a long night out was much better than driving home)

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I’m not saying they did. But they’ve been densely populated and ever growing cities for nearly 2 centuries now. They’ve had a million+ people since the 1800s and have been economic centers of the world the whole time. The way these cities have had to adapt to increasing population and driveability, is going to be different than cities that were small towns at the advent of cars in the early 1900s and are million+ big cities today.

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Not at all. It’s a design and city planning decision. Unfortunately (for me, not for you guys), most NA citizens prefer driving rather than walking. So that’s what we’ve got.

China’s had entire cities built out of villages to become pedestrian and people-friendly, look at Shenzhen. They have robotaxis, metro system, buses, trains, planes, everything. It’s possible to build anything as long as people want it.

Most Americans don’t want walkable societies. They prefer driving, electric scooters, anything to prevent walking and physically moving. Thus we don’t build them. We can if we want to, but generally speaking, we don’t.

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This says more about you then the suburbs…

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I disagree and I prefer to walk honestly. If people preferred driving over walking, then why are all the pedestrian friendly parts of major cities generally the most expensive to live in?

If you got rid of the homeless people and housing prices were better downtown, I’d love to move back to that part of the city. Driving an hour and a half in heavy traffic with a PDK is why I’m trying to get EV truck for my next car. Smooth and better visibility for my daily battle of getting to work.

They also have plenty of ghost cities with large amounts of unoccupied housing. Don’t they have a fake Paris, that was designed to be pedestrian friendly and it’s basically empty?

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I’m 100% positive you’ve got one of your fancy charts to back this statistic up. Right?

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I also prefer public transport and walking, but most of the US doesn’t. Hence why we have such poor infrastructure and why we have people here who will always block any proposals in exchange for their car culture.

“Car culture” = not wanting to be crammed into a bus with 75 people. Yep. Car culture it is. Ya got me. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

This is not about waking or not walking. I walk all the time. I live downtown and walk all the time when the weather is nice. But if I have to go farther than a couple of miles, I’m driving. I’m not taking the bus, lol.

It’s funny cuz yesterday my wife told me my teenage daughter said she met some guy that she really likes. I said oh cool. One of the reasons she likes him? He has a car. Poor girl, she too has fallen I with the evil “car culture” crowd. She should like the guy who takes her on a date on the bus, right? :joy:

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Well for one, I don’t enjoy getting onto a bus with a guy that smells like he showered last year.

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Yes my data is I look out my window and observe the world. Try it sometime. Outside of a few places where cars are exorbitantly expensive to own, nobody but the poor or the ultra-greens takes the bus. If yiu want to be with those people have at it. Just don’t ask me to subsidize your silliness is all I ask. Cool?

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Because it’s a very small area. And the few people who do want to live Soviet Bloc style will happily pay for it. It’s a niche market with high prices. Gucci bags are expensive for the same reason. And they’re not the most expensive. They’re above average not the high end.

It’s also because people who live there will never afford a home. If you it e going to be a lifelong renter might as well do it in a place where you can walk everywhere. I suppose. Good luck raising a family using nothing but a bus and living in a studio apartment though.

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I saw too many naked homeless guys riding the light rail early in the morning. I’ll never sit in one of those seats again.

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Bare Assed Rapid Transit?

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Those screen shots aren’t the entire conversation. I agreed to pay his broker fee. I wasn’t here to waste his time but how are you going to charge a nonrefundable broker fee without telling the client what the numbers are. That’s not even logical. Dozens of brokers out there that aren’t full of it.

It’s fair because you are a Florida resident and he does not deal with outside of tri state area in the northeast. You wanted it so bad then just pay the brokers fee and you would’ve gotten the numbers. Seeing you qualified for all the good incentives you should’ve had no worries anyway as you would’ve had a good deal. Just pay the damn fee since you were going crazy to get a quote from a out of tri state region

can you please share dealer info and trim details

What dealer? Would you mind uploading the deal PDF ? Thank you :pray:

Hey, still available? PM me