Civic LX for 310 a month with 2k das. WHEW, looks to me like you are packing a Civic LX at sticker with NJ tax.
If you want to tell me your deal’s MSRP / build I’d be happy to show what it looks like at ‘invoice’.
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I can attest that BMW of Turnersville will not touch any of the numbers that we’re accustomed to seeing here…
Karl, my man, take the time to read the Shared Deals section and you’ll see what kind of deals go thru here.
Be nice, or else these guys will chew you up on fugaze deals. Think of this audience as fellow store sales managers. They know how to calculate leases by hand, know the monthly numbers and know what the going rate (discount) should be on a particular vehicle (some of them know where to push or even go for the jugular)
If sales price discounts aren’t aggressive, you’ll waste your time here.
Good luck 
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Looks like Kampin Karl showed himself the door lol.
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He had no time for the Haters. He was too busy giving people the best car buying and car shopping experience possible. Also, I’d like to remind you, he was making no money on these deals.
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I truly believe @karlutz isn’t making any money. Sales people typically don’t make anything on any deal average or better. That being said, the dealership is definitely making money on these. I find it is exceedingly rare for a dealership to completely “lose” money on a deal. Yeah, they’re selling the car for under invoice, but they got trunk money, incentives from corporate, loaner allowance, backend, window etch/nitro fee, etc. Now, it does happen, but it’s pretty rare (even if it’s somewhat common here).
Honestly, I don’t think it’s a good deal unless it’s at least $2k under invoice at this point. Anything invoice doesn’t even interest me as I can get that all day long on practically any car.
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@karlutz, while we piled onto you and will likely continue to do so for a bit, I do appreciate positivity. It does count for a lot. As for your offers, having read the forum and with your being based in New Jersey I see a lot of people that take advantage of the EV credits. I think if you really wanted to move volume, this is one of the areas you could do so, and I encourage you to review some of the threads on the Bolts and Ionics.
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Cringed every time I read this.
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Would be better if he posts this on FB, don’t you think?
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Let’s approach this a little differently to help you better gauge the room and help us better understand the quality of what you’re offering.
What is the pre-incentive discount percentage you’re offering on this 330xi, when normalized for buy rate MF?
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#Feeltheutzfactor
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I worked very hard on it while he was cleaning this mess and I posted without seeing his post, very simple.
p.s. it took you a long time to come up with your post also - I see there is only 1 like vs. current 8
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I was joking.
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Nah, I don’t buy it 
But I agree with you. I was thinking long and hard about removing my post or even reaching out to @Siejammy with my apologies 
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It really might help you to take a few minutes to read the room.
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I’ll try and help you out. People here want $0 down (CCR is idiotic). People what to know what “all rebates” are. People want to know the trim and MSRP of what they could lease. Trax LS is much different from Trax Premier.
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