# No Sign and Drive with Audi **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask the Hackrs\ **Created:** [February 20, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911 "2017-02-20T03:20:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mung35](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mung35/32/10127_2.png) [@mung35](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mung35)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/1 "2017-02-20T03:20:07Z")
Was working on an S3 deal today. Audi REP and Sales Manager said they cannot sign and drive on leases? Dealer specific or manufacturer rules? ---
**Author:** ![AMM](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/amm/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@AMM](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/AMM)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/2 "2017-02-20T06:40:53Z")
FWIW I don’t recall ever seeing S&D with socal dealers. Out of interest what kind of numbers are you getting on your lease deal? ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/alex/32/731_2.png) [@Alex](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/3 "2017-02-20T07:24:29Z")
Audi and Porsche leases are the worst. From a financial standpoint- cash deals for Audi if you’re trying or expecting to save money. ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/4 "2017-02-20T15:28:32Z")
Why not pay first month (or first + Drive-offs) at signing? Is this really an issue or is this an academic discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Phantomcypher](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/phantomcypher/32/8890_2.png) [@Phantomcypher](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Phantomcypher)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/5 "2017-02-20T15:47:44Z")
Funny that you say that because Audis sell for the same money as their counterparts used. You would think that all their horrible lease programs would keep the used car prices afloat but all it’s doing is keeping Audi’s wallet fat. ---
**Author:** ![manku](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/manku/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@manku](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/manku)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/6 "2017-02-20T16:45:04Z")
I think I leased 2 Audi’s with zero drive off (sign and drive) here in LA…from Beverly Hills Audi (old one next to La Cienega/San Vicente) and Auto Gallery in Woodland Hills. Also an A4 Convertible in 2009 from Penske in West Covina. I just leased a Subaru, and a couple dealers said that Subaru wouldn’t allow zero drive off leases…again, not true, as I did one from Subaru Pacific. ---
**Author:** ![Alex](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/alex/32/731_2.png) [@Alex](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Alex)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/7 "2017-02-20T18:47:56Z")
Yes I agree. It’s a good technique- kind of how tesla only accepted cash deals when it first came out- then leasing (ridiculously expensive and non negotiable for teslas). Exclusiveness isn’t necessarily a bad thing but if you’re looking to have a little extra in your pocket- then that vehicle is not for you. ---
**Author:** ![mung35](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mung35/32/10127_2.png) [@mung35](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mung35)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/no-sign-and-drive-with-audi/8911/8 "2017-02-20T18:51:23Z")
In Nor-Cal - for what it’s worth - they wanted a minimum $2K drive off - MSRP - $50.2K Sales Price - $48.7K Residual 55% for 36/36k MF = .00149 Seems crappy compared to what was being offered year end.