New Hacker - Deal Check! Audi Q5 Sportback 23'

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Hello hello,

As the title suggests, I’m new to the world of lease hacking. As a longtime city girl, I’ve found myself back in the burbs and in need of a car. Well, I have a car, but its a 2010 Buick and I’m ready to level up!

After reading the threads, spending hours, HOURS on KBB, CarEdge, YouTube and even doing a CarEdge consult, I’m having difficulty getting more than a 3% discount off MSRP.

As someone in sales, I feel like I have decent negotiating tactics, however, I’m pretty much stuck at only being able to get ~3% off MSRP. So maybe I’m not as good as I thought… And TBH, I won’t stop until I get the unicorn 10% off MSRP I’m hearing everyone on here get.

I’ve emailed numerous dealers confirming models, availability, etc. and have about three active OTD quotes I’m working on. And surprisingly, I feel like I’m having better luck out of state. IDK if that’s the norm, but that’s just my experience.

BUT, they all seem to give me the hard stop when I present my counter based off the research I’ve done. And because the offers are very similar, it doesn’t give me any leverage to strategically present one offer against the other.

I’ll counter and then their counter offers are superrr underwhelming. Which I guess is expected? But damn, I figured maybe one would bite.

Anyway, this is the latest deal I’m working through and would love any advice, tips, tricks, etc. I’ve been seeing a lot of ppl talk about using a broker… is that the way to go? I wouldn’t be opposed if it would help me land on an OTD price I’m comfortable with.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

Market Value Selling Price: 58,810.00
Discount: 2,079.92 (I need to confirm this, over text they said 2.6k, the 600 is the shipping fee from NC to NJ)
Customer Credit: 3,000
Costco:1,000
Doc Fee: 699
Tax : 3,804.68
Lien Fee: 160 -
LFIS : 235.25
License Fee: 311
Title Fee: 60

|Final OTD |$58,000|

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Looks like a really bad deal.

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Yes, I’m fully aware. TY for confirming what I already suspected

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Look on cargurus.com for the exact car you want (model, trim, color, etc), set it to look within 200 miles of you, and then scroll down to “Days on market” and set a minimum of 90 days. If something pulls up, email that dealer your offer. If nothing pulls up, change it to 300 miles, then 500, etc.

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I see the thread is tagged as NJ, but Flow is in NC, where are you located?

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These don’t even have good programs. You’re just wasting your time TBH

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Did you check out the Marketplace section of this forum for brokers in NJ? I have not closely been following deals on the Q5, but I do recall seeing some brokers offering discounts in the 8 to 10% off range.

Any reason you are looking into getting a Q5 sport back? Are you open to other SUVs that might lease better? What are your must haves in your next car?

EDIT: The deal sheet you shared has finance numbers. Where are the leasing numbers? 3% off MSRP is laughable, IMO. Move on from this dealer.

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New Jersey, but this specific model I liked was on the lot in NC.

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Totally, going to move on from it.

I did check the marketplace forum and reached out to someone, but no response. No biggie, I can try again.

I really like the exterior and overall look of the Sportback. I also like the drive, tech is fine, driving is comfortable for me. I’ve read a lot of reviews where people complain how its not as luxe/premium as its competitor’s (BMW/Mercedes) but that’s not rly important for me. Would it be nice to drive a luxury car? Yes. Is it a must have, I guess not… So idk, now I’m back to square one I guess.

I do love a sporty look, so that would be a must have.

If you have any recs, would be open to hearing them!

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Yeah, it seems like that. Oh well, I tried

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Thank you!! going to try that moving forward

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I can give you a bit more than double that discount on one in stock much closer in PA if we can find a match.

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I’m interested.

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That’s a great resource. I was monitoring cars on dealer’s lots and knew that GLC’s were rusting, but didn’t know they were sitting there for 144 days. So much for a “hot” car that everyone is crazy to get to justify insane LTV and stubbornness of dealers unwilling to properly discount this behemoth.

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I’ve already been using it and wow, such a great resource! A few cars I was interested have been sitting around for much longer than I expected. Not 144 days, that’s wild.

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I am in MD, just looked up GLE’s and saw plenty of 350’s at Cockeysville, MD, mostly white with brown interior, sitting there for 144 days.

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One important thing on this, it’s not actually that accurate all the time, and I do like using that resource, but there is one big caveat that not a lot of people know about or realize:

That tool works by just picking up on the first time they indexed the listing and then counting the days, but these days most dealers list their inbound cars, so you could see a car that looks 60 days aged but really it just got there because it was listed while it was still in production. It’s a bit more useful for used cars. That being said, if you see 144 days aged, then yeah, it’s definitely been sitting, but possibly not actually that long.

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I visited that dealership, it was dead on Saturday early afternoon. I was literally the only person sitting at the desk (all other desks were vacant). Three morons , probably gm and managers, were sitting at the main desk like inquisitors in medieval papal inquisition, watching me for an hour while sales rep was doing nothing and before he came up with ridiculously overinflated lease offer on the paper. I just walked out. I could tell those cars were not going anywhere.

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We’re doing 8% off!

This is our current inventory if you see anything you like:

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Try NY dealers, I was having bad luck getting NJ dealers to play ball for a Q8. Once I had a good offer, I circled it to the dealers in NJ and they still wouldn’t match.