Mercedes Benz EQS Lease Superthread - 1

Lol yeah 99% of the alerts are BS. But that 1% results in the most amount of bragging imaginable.

Not sure what you were expecting when you clicked on that link haha.

I see, have not tested if keying would trigger it. Have not had my car keyed since I drove a bmw (people love to key that, both bmw got keyed once…)

Does it need to be same brand as what came on the car?

No but same all around can’t be mismatch front to rear or left to right

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Can you just use a sharpie to write a tire brand on the sidewall?

I tried, won’t work

They do make stickers that go over the sidewall

Just received message from shop that they ordered the wrong part for my EQS SUV and need to reorder it at 4th week. I guess I’ll be getting a new car.

Anyone know how does the lemon law stuff works in California? Buy back is determined by miles when issue happened/120k, so can I drive the car for 1 year for free and claim lemon based on current miles or something?

California has the Song Beverly act to provide rules to follow in a lemon case. But for real, lemon case sucks ass for you and MB since it’s a huge time sink, results in lawyer fees, and puts a fat lemon-strike on the car’s title.

https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1808&context=lclr

If you have the time/patience, go to whichever MB has your car (hopefully it’s the same dealer that sold you the EQS).

Find someone in charge and tell them you now acknowledge that your vehicle would qualify for a lemon in the state of California. But, tell them you want to work with MB to resolve the matter without involving lawyers since that would cost MB more money and cost you more time.

If you’re totally fine not nickel-diming damages (that is, MB had given you a pretty good loaner and you didn’t suffer out of pocket costs)… present to them your existing lease buyout amount. Tell whoever is at the dealership to seek a goodwill extension whereby MB-USA buys out your lease at that payoff amount and you’ll be free/clear of any remaining liabilities. Edit: and of course with the added paperwork where MB-USA would own the vehicle after this.

However, I understand you may have put some up-fronts, MSDs, or a cap cost reduction. If this were the case, then you may seek to recover some/all of those. But I hope this isn’t too messy.

Alternatively, if there is a MB on the lot that you do want, ask them to do a collateral exchange and swap you out of your existing lease and enter into a new lease. Unfortunately, since the latest lease terms are worse than when you got your EQS, this will likely be a more expensive vehicle… so you may not actually want to do this.

Either way, them buying you out of your remaining lease obligation as an act of goodwill should be much easier/better for everybody. The actual lemon framework involving lawyers is not fast or easy.

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This is interesting. I wonder if the process of returning MSD’s would be difficult in a Lemon case… I think a fair proposal would be at least 50% of total lease payments plus upfront payments.

Then again, my payment is under $500 on my EQS so the amount returned would be minimal. Not to mention I’d have to find a deal on something else to even make it worth it.

Starting to consider just holding onto this loaner until they figure it all out. At least I’m reducing the amount of mileage overage while it sits in the shop.

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MSD’s should be returned in their entirety if the lease is paid off without any issues. They’re a deposit, not a capital cost reduction.

One-pays could be a linear refund of the unused portion rather than the payoff balance.

But, that capital cost reductions paid by the lessee can get messy. Because it’s not terribly clear how those should amortize over time. If the vehicle fair value exceeds the payoff balance it stands to reason that positive equity would be returned to the lessee. But for the EQS it’s likely underwater and any up front capital cost reductions could just vanish. In that case, I think involving lawyers may be necessary to ensure damages are recovered more fairly.

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I agree that the absurd number of Mercedes logos was irritating. Luckily the one I picked up only has the logo on the steering wheel, and even the outside front has no star pattern, it’s just gloss black finish. That was a win for me.

I also have not had any issues with it so far (hope I don’t jinx it). Maybe the amount of issues is proportional to the number of Mercedes Logos inside and outside the car.

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It should be very clear in california as lemon law defines all these. Basically other than miles/120k * price of car, everything else should be paid back to buyer.

Rant: I’ve been looking eqe suv as my next lease. The primary feature I want is the 2nd row heated seats. I can’t believe how hard is it to find them in eqe. For 80k+ car, 2nd row heated seats should be standard. It’s a winter package, yet most of 80-86k eqe in dealership right now don’t have it. It seems either the dealer or MB prioritize other tech package (lane keeping assist etc) over the winter package. I only find the winter package on some of the $90k+ eqe. Rant over.

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Yeah, the winter package is really not popular even in cold areas annoyingly. That being said I think the exclusive trim with the drivers assist package is an absolute must on the car, I think adaptive cruise is an outstanding feature on modern cars and MBs is among the best. You may have luck special ordering a car exactly how you want if you can pre negotiate.

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Even my almost 120k msrp eqs do not have heated rear seats…

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my 128k unit doesn’t either :rofl:

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FWIW, my wife and MIL hate sitting in the back of the EQS sedan. They all say the car kind of makes them feel sick. I don’t think it’s about the lack of heated rear seating or Sport vs Comfort modes.

GLS and ICE Mercedes don’t seem to elicit this feedback. Neither does EV BMW.

I really think MB fucked up bad on the EQS.

Yeah kind of done with eqs now, going to get an ICE suv next. Will be test driving some cayenne and x7 this weekend.

Assuming MB takes care of you, don’t sleep on the GLS.

My wife is picky, and for a time was only willing to entertain a X7, Range Rover, or Escalade Sport. But she checked out the GLS and found it to have the most car-like ride, way more space, and (at the time) looked better than the X7.

Unfortunately MB made the GLS grille way the eff too big starting 2024. @oarfish18 has a black 2023 GLS580 though. Very niiiiice.

Also, entertaining video.

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I did consider the GLS, but read a lot of horror stories about 48v reliability in the new Mercedes, which I guess was similar issue for my eqs. BMW and Porsche seems to be way more reliable in recent years. My wife and I agreed that a little less comfortable and worse ride quality is better than stranded in middle of nowhere.