They actually got that at auction and CPO’d it for only $59k?
Maybe they should take some actual photos of the car lololol.
No, some rich guy bought it and traded for AMG EQS
Friggin’ Ben Affleck…
Edit: You think they’ll turn that thing before they have to drop price below $59k?
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Tesla is reacting to the Mercedes EV, not the other way around is what I heard in the video conference with Mercedes Vice President of Sales today. Just reinforces the argument that MB is not changing their price structure
I can’t even comprehend how Mercedes’ market research came to that conclusion. Like are they delusional?
Tesla has not once reacted to what any other automaker has done. If an automaker does something, Tesla usually does the opposite.
Oh most automakers care about after-sales service and care? Tesla is just going to tell buyers to go eff themselves.
Oh most automakers want to have interiors that feel nice? Tesla is just going to offer a bleak hellscape of suffering.
There are like 10 people in my subdivision that recently bought Model S. I know this because they are refresh models with the black plastic over the rear license plate with T E S L A in white. 2022 Model S have an all black bar; in 2023 it became black with white lettering. Anyway, none of them cross shopped the EQS or eTron, or i7. Buying Tesla isn’t about some feature set to most people, it’s about getting the car that makes them feel “smart” to follow in the footsteps of some visionary.
And the 3 people with EQS got them because they used to have Teslas, and wised up that Tesla sucks ass.
Unfortunately dropping pricing has pulled some anti-Tesla people back into the pro-Tesla camp. Sucks. I don’t actually think the Model S pricing is necessitating your used car folks to need to consider dropping list on that 2022 450+. I think it’s more of a function that very few people want the EQS at any price heh.
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My EQS has been in service for over 30 days now, I’ll be lemoning it too. Did you do it yourself or hired an attorney? I’m in California, so hiring an attorney should be easy.
(I gave MB a try, going back to Model S, I guess)
Lemon law attorneys are plentiful and won’t cost you anything upfront. I’d call a few and see which ones you’re comfortable with. If you search LH, you may be able to find a few prior OP’s who can refer you to someone. Good luck
Just curious, but what are the issues?
I requested buyback through Mercedes without involving a lawyer. It took 8 weeks for them to review the case and approve it.
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So what was the settlement?
Come on. Propagating delusional ideas is a core competence for any exec, let alone a VP of sales.
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First week of ownership: distronic sensor replaced , took them a day.
Two months later, the main screen turned black, and they just can’t fix it. I kept calling my service advisor, called service manager (like five times, sent them an email too), escalated with the corporate. My hunch is that they are short on parts.
I hope attorney fees will motivate them moving faster
So how does lemon lawing a car work.
Say I contact a lemon law lawyer. They get the car lemoned. Mercedes then settles and buys back the car, refunds all the lease payments and down payment, etc. Then the lawyer takes 30-40% of that so you’re left still out some cash? Or does the settlement include payment of legal fees?
In that case it sounds like there would be wiggle room where it would be better on both sides to not go the lawyer route. Who would you contact first, the dealer? Benz premier customer service?
Sales can say whatever spin they want to say. If this were remotely true, this thread and the persistent unicorn searches on the EQ model line as a whole would not exist. I applaud them for saving face, and keeping their price structure steady, to not dilute their brand catchet. The backend, dealer trunk money is the smart move.
Engineering I assume has a better grasp of what the market is willing to pay for, and what it doesnt. The -A series they unveiled is what I think is going to the needle in the haystack alot of OEMs are going to move towards. Mass market I think wants vehicles designed in shapes that they know infused with the Tesla like EV tech that makes maintenance and other vehicle upkeep minimal. When that time comes, I assume latter in this decade, this thread and pursuit of EQ unicorns will be gone.
I believe it will be gone in couple years.
Each state is different. Also remember a buyback is NOT A LEMON. Getting to lemon territory involves lawyers, then screws the title on the car since it has to be registered as a lemon forever. An automaker can do a buyback settlement and take 6 months to fix a car, and it’ll never be disclosed as a lemon. Anyways…
California has a fairly consistent workflow that is mostly a slam dunk for anyone that has had a car in for service for 30 calendar days. Like it’s so consistent that if you’re a buyer with a dump car, then you’re better off just asking for a collateral exchange (new VIN swap) or a buyback. Since involving lawyers is no fun, and everyone knows the outcome once 30 days is hit. Legal fees are additive to the amount required to make the buyer whole. There’s a thing called the “Song Beverley Act” that clearly defines how the “make the buyer whole” values are calculated and fair legal costs etc.
Washington is different. A friend of mine tried to get a lemon process because the automaker refused to do a straight non-legal-related buyback. It turns out recent law changes in Washington make it difficult for lawyers to make profit on supporting lemon cases; so the lawyers literally dropped my friend as a client. Instead my friend had to go through the state attorney general office. But, the automaker told the AG office to screw off as well, and the AG didn’t know what to do hah.
In my personal experience, there’s a regional sales/service/goodwill component that can be accessed if a buyer puts a reasonable case together on their own and makes a reasonable appeal for a collateral exchange or buyback.
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Got mine back from service after one day. All recalls were completed and they claim the recalls solved the batter charging issue I was having. Time will tell.
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Does your car always fully stop itself when on strong regen? Mine usually keeps creeping along at a very slow speed. It does fully stop itself… occasionally when and if it feels like it… but I typically get too nervous to depend on it.
Yeah it even does a very slight roll-to-a-stop. It’s what you’d try to modulate with an ICE for comfort.
It’s also much more smooth stop than a Tesla. Those just halt and apply the brakes more abruptly.