"Meet our new pure electric Volvo C40 Recharge"

awesome system actually. very intuitive.

I bet it is. Sensus got better, but still not great.

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i meant the google.

Google, Android - better then Sensus

it could be awesome as all that, but I don’t trust Google to not do a few things:

  1. to not move shit around for the sake of moving it around just because they need to justify having 100000 UX “specialists”
  2. remove functionality in favor of something that doesn’t work for shit
  3. Add crap that doesn’t work and have be beta test their product in a moving vehivle
  4. get bored with the adoption rate and abandon all support

Just can’t wait to see “maps have stopped working” on a loop while driving on an interstate. And that’s not counting the fact that I don’t need to give them more telemetry than what they aready have on me.

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It looks great. I’d buy this.

CTRL+C: X6
CTRL+V into Volvo document

Also: Fjord Blue :drooling_face::drooling_face::drooling_face:

Ugh. This changes a lot for dealers and will most likely affect buyers.
I’m not from car sales/dealer industry but Volvo and most other mfg have independent dealers while Tesla service centers are Tesla owned/operated.

So now you’re telling Volvo dealers that your chance of making money on selling new, CPO and traded cars is gone and you’ll only make money from servicing the cars? Like just turning them into mechanic shops?

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It does look good, but I’d expect more that just re-using old XC40 body.

I LOVE me some Volvo design language but I can’t get excited about this. I think its my general aversion to coupe-ish SUVs. The specs are cool but I think a higher range would help the perceived range anxiety of some potential EV buyers. I think the design will grow on me.

Glad that this actually does seem to be coming to the US market though?

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That was an awesome phone back in the day.

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Hello Moto

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Tesla has had vegan interiors for several years. It is now the only option on the Model 3. For most manufacturers it is an upgrade. Most high end sports cars such as porsches offer non-leather seats. I have the leather-free “nubuck-tex” seats on the XC40T5R and they are extremely comfortable and non-slip. Easier to maintain, hard to scratch and won’t get hot in the summer. The hardest part was to make a non-leather, high-end steering wheel cover material but that has now been solved.

That just proves my point really. Tesla’s interiors are pretty crappy.

Huh? For german and japanese brands it’s usually the tex is base and leather is big $$$s

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Don’t the white pleathers have staining issues? I remember hearing on the Tesla forums people were having issues with blue jeans or am I confusing an earlier iteration?

OP wise, I love the new look of the C40. The dealer thing may not have gone over as smooth as coffee :grin:.

:chocolate_bar:

I think this happens with a lot of fake leathers and especially when jeans are involved. Something in the way jeans are treated combined with how fake leather is produced. Sometimes jeans seep into the seat color and sometimes it’s the reverse.

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Not these high performance “vegan” leathers. We are not talking “leatherette”, cloth or vinyl.
These new materials are just as technology intensive as the new EV batteries. It is a completely new market driven by reduction in CO2, increased comfort, durability.

More than half of all Mercedes Benz use MB Tex. Porsche has Race-Tex. Customers love them.

Alcantara, a type of synthetic suede (similar to what Volvo uses on its R models), has become so popular the company in Italy that developed it can’t make enough to meet demand. Alcantara was once the preserve of the most expensive performance cars like Ferrari and Lamborghini but is now become available in more mainstream cars. There are good reasons they emerged in performance and race cars. The seats are grippier, they don’t get hot or sweaty, easy to clean. Great material for a dash as it eliminates reflections and glare. Much softer to the touch than leather.
Hardly cheap!

Once you sit in one of these seats you never want to go back to leather. Leather interiors are going the way of the dinosaurs, just like IC engines.

Benz, sure. Porsche ok, BMW no problem. What’s in Tesla is pure crap with a trimming of garbage. I’ve sat in all of them. Model S was okish, 3 and Y feel extremely cheap…

As far as Alcantara, there is a lot of marketing around it as well. There are a ton of cases where steering wheels start looking like shit very quickly, which is not a problem with high end cars as they barely get driven, but on high use cars it’s a problem.

The only thing drives the market is cost. Once the cost is figured out, the marketing department takes over as to how to feed kool aid to “woke” people.

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Ironically, Tesla had been trying to get Alcantara for years but did not want to pay the price so they went for a cheap alternative.

I am not saying that all synthetics are better than leather. Some like alcantara definitely are. The Volvo Nubuck-tex is also great.

Steering wheels have been a problem until recently, and Alcantara is not good for that. But there are new materials for steering wheels that are also better than leather.

Carbon footprint is now driving car manufacturing, from emissions to interiors.

The comment about “woke” people reminds me about what was said just a few years ago about people driving EVs. :slight_smile:

Still applies, but without “woke” beta testers technology won’t move forward, so thank you to all the people who want to suffer through immense hurdles of adoption. I’ll wait until it actually makes any kind of sense to switch, because to me EVs are not about saving the environment (which ultimately they are such a tiny piece of the puzzle that they are irrelevant on the grand scheme), to me any kind of car is dollars and cents, and right now no EV makes any kind of sense.

I am sold on the C40. Would I get it for 99 a month or free*? I can’t decide.

*Free after state incentives like NJ 5k or CVRP…