Yes there is there are two companies
Here is one of them
https://www.autonationmobility.com/
They do 6-12 month lease
Don’t listen to cheapskates. Get him something that’s safe. Buying old cars is a definite way of something terrible happening in the event of a crash. Obviously if you can afford it, else do the best you can. You can always replace a car.
Oh please, we are not telling him to buy 1970 car. 2001+ car have airbags n abs already.
Yeah a 2013 car is a deathtrap. It has no ABS, no airbags, not even seatbelts. Some don’t even have a brake pedal.
This is the power of marketing from car manufacturers. Throwing a ton of gadgets in a $70K car makes them safe!
Yeah, my minimum requirement is side impact airbags (as any vehicle with them also has ABS and other airbags). Most vehicles after the late oughts had those.
There’s a big problem with sweeping generalities.
In a crash I’d much rather be in a 1975 Chevrolet Suburban than a 2025 Kia Spatula.
Could you point to where I said he needs to get a $70k car and something new? There are features like forward collision avoidance and etc which help avoid accidents and a newer car helps in collisions. This is the US, not a street in Europe where the limit is 30 mph. Crash test methods have changed in the past decade and a slightly newer car would help. I’m not sure what range you’re targeting, but as new as you can afford with preventative features is a + in my book.
Not quire apples to apples for this discussion, but right on point for some major differences for old vs. new. Worth thinking about for any family member driving an “older” car vs. something that is “new” for the most part.
Did you forget a /s?
95 Honda Civic EX
In addition to the safety enhancements, the 2015 version is 17% heavier, which has an impact on crash performance (no pun intended).
The 3 airbags that just saved my son’s life Sunday seem pretty important.
Thank you so much! I’m a mom who literally almost lost my son in an accident (not his fault),and thankfully all the safety features from his 2023 Accord saved him.
I’m sure they are. And any car I’ve been talking about has airbags as well.
Do what you want, lease your teen a brand new car. Your money, your kid. Your life.
I am glad your son is doing OK. Depending on his mental makeup, consider offering some counseling/ CBT if driving starts to introduce panic/anxiety in the future. My wife still struggles with driving thanks to some unresolved issues around a bad wreck she had in college 30 years ago (not her fault where a person ran a stop sign and t-boned her vehicle).
I think if you had mentioned that his old car was a new (2023) Honda Accord, you may have gotten different responses in this thread.
I wonder what safety feature in 2023 honda accord which make a difference in that crash which my 2002 e46 doesnt have.
Seat belt checked
ABS checked
Front & passenger airbag checked
Side airbag checked
DSC checked.
When I was in HS I was involved in a pretty nasty accident in an early 90s Toyota. I walked without a scratch. The car itself was crumpled mess.
The safety code was cracked sometime in the mid to late 80s by car manufacturers. At least in terms of accident safety.
Preventing accidents, that tech has definitely improved since. But somewhere in the mid 2010s that was cracked as well.
So yeah a new car is all else equal safer than a 20 year old car. Is it safer than a 10 year old car? Maybe marginally. But not really.
NCAP didn’t start until the mid-1990s, and the BMW 3-series before the 1999 re-design did not fare well (I only skimmed the article):
https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/classic-cars/a42356005/bmw-e30-e36-m3-3-series-crash-safety/
I believe that standard European crash tests have always (or long) been more stringent than have been US ones, and European luxury makes generally tended to have more standard safety features and to perform better than non-European brands.
The 2002 Camry and 2004 Accord actually did quite poorly in IIHS side crash tests w/o the optional side airbags.
Can you find an older car that would do well in crash tests and in the real world? I’m sure plenty of older Volvos and MBs would do very well in a real world crash test. But I think one of the primary benefits of a newer car is that the metaphorical floor has been raised so much that there are many more cars that will do well and do well in a variety of accident settings.