# I got 99 problems and a Frontier ain’t one. (A new year’s guide to a transitory lease in a car you probably don’t want) **URL:** \ **Category:** Signed Deals & Tips\ **Tags:** dealer, broker, nissan, truck, usa-nationwide\ **Created:** [January 12, 2022, 9:24am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018 "2022-01-12T09:24:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![stearicom](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stearicom/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@stearicom](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/stearicom)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/42 "2022-01-12T21:54:32Z")
Got one at a discount. This is in TX. I think they have tax credits if I’m reading this correctly. Marked up MF and residual is only 94%. I’m try to get to the bottom of it. Not that I need one. ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/1/2/121c0532db3fa492c3f4f5d50c2164d3ebfa0c31.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/43 "2022-01-12T21:57:41Z")
King cab? At least they’re trading the TC for the rate markup so it’s the same as if you were paying full tax. ---
**Author:** ![Jrouleau426](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jrouleau426/32/195763_2.png) [@Jrouleau426](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Jrouleau426)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/44 "2022-01-12T21:58:58Z")
Not everyone’s salary has kept up with inflation, even remotely. I sold a lot of 300/mo tundras to people that could never pay 700 for a new one. When I had 300/mo tacos this month, I sold all of them in 2 weeks. 26 of them to be exact. The demand is there and that was a 39 month lease not 18… It’s always nice to have 2-300/mo options regardless of the vehicles lacking components. At the end of the day a new car at this price is always less of a gamble then a used car financed. It’s amazing, regardless if your tax bracket, we have a resource like leasehackr for people to utilize. Saving 200/mo is groceries for a week for a hard working family… ---
**Author:** ![IAC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/iac/32/149215_2.png) [@IAC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/IAC)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/45 "2022-01-12T22:01:59Z")
Something for everyone. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stearicom](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/stearicom/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@stearicom](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/stearicom)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/46 "2022-01-12T22:03:10Z")
Oh, you’re right. The King Cab is 94%. This is a King Cab. Let me find a Crew Cab. ---
**Author:** ![mattevan](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mattevan/32/35327_2.png) [@mattevan](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mattevan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/47 "2022-01-12T22:10:19Z")
Yes, I don’t disagree with any point you have made here. Tons of people buy Nissans! Many even love them! Fleet managers, to name one population. ---
**Author:** ![M3WC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/m3wc/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@M3WC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/M3WC)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/48 "2022-01-12T22:17:28Z")
It is considered a prerunner. They are thing in SoCal. 2wd offroad pickups(prerunners) became real popular in 90’s. They came about from vehicles used by race teams to prerun racecourses in baja. ---
**Author:** ![xenhacker](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/xenhacker/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@xenhacker](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/xenhacker)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/49 "2022-01-12T22:21:06Z")
Geezch. It is called Leasehakr and any deals right now in the mother of all supply constraints and markeups are worth discussing. For someone that just needs a new, vehicle/pickup truck to ride out the next 12-18 months of dealer and lease company shenanigans, at least it is a potential option. ---
**Author:** ![M3WC](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/m3wc/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@M3WC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/M3WC)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/50 "2022-01-12T22:22:56Z")
In Pro4x trim I actually think this redesign is one of the best looking in small pickup segment. Maybe the best looking. Ranger, Canyon, Colorado look terrible. Tacoma looks good, but it has been out way too long. ---
**Author:** ![DevOps](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/devops/32/99171_2.png) [@DevOps](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/DevOps)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/51 "2022-01-12T22:27:31Z")
I like the Green SV 🤣. Seems to be a bunch on the ground in GA. ---
**Author:** ![Jrouleau426](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jrouleau426/32/195763_2.png) [@Jrouleau426](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Jrouleau426)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/52 "2022-01-12T22:45:52Z")
Tacoma’s work even with dated designs bc of their value. Almost all my clients have equity at lease end. Issue is the banks not allowing you to recapture it without paying the man… ---
**Author:** ![mattevan](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mattevan/32/35327_2.png) [@mattevan](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mattevan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/53 "2022-01-12T22:47:53Z")
I find it lazy and annoying that Nissan had better, newer parts available and chose mostly old and worse and dated stuff for this remake. Agree it gets better in the upper trims from a curb appeal standpoint, but the price also goes up here. I do understand this partly a product of product development cycles/timelines, but it can be avoided if you care enough to take the cost hit. ---
**Author:** ![BigNerd](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bignerd/32/148824_2.png) [@BigNerd](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/BigNerd)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/54 "2022-01-13T00:26:56Z")
Also, I believe the Frontier is no longer a small or compact truck… these are mid-size like the Taco. It’s actually similar interior space (from Edmunds): T Front Head Room 39.7 in. N Front Head Room 39.9 in. T Front Leg Room 42.9 in. N Front Leg Room 42.3 in. T Front Shoulder Room 58.3 in. N Front Shoulder Room 58.2 in. T Rear Head Room 38.3 in. N Rear Head Room 38.6 in. T Rear Leg Room 32.6 in. N Rear Leg Room 33.2 in. T Rear Shoulder Room 58.9 in. N Rear Shoulder Room 58.7 in. I would consider one but I’m looking for a full-size truck (I have a thread here somewhere). ---
**Author:** ![steevo](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/steevo/32/32638_2.png) [@steevo](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/steevo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/55 "2022-01-13T01:01:44Z")
The old Nissan Desert Runner was rear-wheel drive. ---
**Author:** ![WHIZ](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/whiz/32/109117_2.png) [@WHIZ](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/WHIZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/56 "2022-01-13T01:56:02Z")
Many of the dealers never heard of 18 months lease term before, so they are skeptical from the beginning. Also, in the bulletin residual values are listed for 15,000 mi/year and additional 3% needs to be to residual value. Happy hacking everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Zenek](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/zenek/32/204361_2.png) [@Zenek](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Zenek)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/57 "2022-01-13T02:17:51Z")
> [@WHIZ](#): > > Also, in the bulletin residual values are listed for 15,000 mi/year and additional 3% needs to be to residual value. Happy hacking everyone! maybe 15k miles for 18 months? ---
**Author:** ![TypeSH](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/typesh/32/58696_2.png) [@TypeSH](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/TypeSH)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/58 "2022-01-13T02:24:17Z")
> [@Zenek](#): > > maybe 15k miles for 18 months No the RV table is almost always based around 15k/yr and requires a plus up for 12k or 10k. NMAC has a 1pt shift to 12k and another 2pts to 10k. ---
**Author:** ![WHIZ](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/whiz/32/109117_2.png) [@WHIZ](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/WHIZ)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/59 "2022-01-13T02:26:19Z")
No, what is listed in the bulletin is residual value for 15,000 mi/yr, then there is fine print: Add 2% to RV for low mileage term of 12,000 mi/yr Add 3% to RV for extra low mileage term of 10,000 my/yr ---
**Author:** ![wantingadeal](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/wantingadeal/32/116380_2.png) [@wantingadeal](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/wantingadeal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/60 "2022-01-13T02:28:03Z")
![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/1/b/1b417b812f132f24fd124c7e496393abb6ac319c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![volnedan](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/volnedan/32/27815_2.png) [@volnedan](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/volnedan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018/61 "2022-01-13T04:39:14Z")
Wow, so this is really happening huh? Looks like there are a few base S 4x4 models near me that I will have to check out now. Probably a shitty truck, but if I can score one for under $175/mo it would open up opportunities to order something worthwhile like a new LT1 that arrives just as the snow melts here… Damn this site! Damn you Roger! [Previous page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/i-got-99-problems-and-a-frontier-ain-t-one-a-new-year-s-guide-to-a-transitory-lease-in-a-car-you-probably-don-t-want/403018.md?page=4)