# HOW TO GET A GOOD WRANGLER 4XE Deal; Buckle up for a LONG read! (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** Signed Deals & Tips\ **Created:** [March 25, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590 "2022-03-25T03:20:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 430
**Author:** ![ilpapa](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/ilpapa/32/149662_2.png) [@ilpapa](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/ilpapa)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9154 "2022-07-25T03:02:18Z")
true. i should have said quality and finish. ---
**Author:** ![stk123](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/stk123/32/22762_2.png) [@stk123](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/stk123)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:25am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9155 "2022-07-25T06:25:46Z")
I faintly recall that the production on 23 wrangler 4xe starts sometime in Aug, so do we expect them to hit the market around Nov/dec ? does the price of 22 drop right when they hit the market or after a few months? ---
**Author:** ![TheBigTuna](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/thebigtuna/32/261077_2.png) [@TheBigTuna](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/TheBigTuna)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9156 "2022-07-25T15:42:23Z")
> [@stk123](#): > > I faintly recall that the production on 23 wrangler 4xe starts sometime in Aug, so do we expect them to hit the market around Nov/dec ? Production starts around mid August. These will start trickling into dealers by mid to late September fyi ---
**Author:** ![sev](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/sev/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@sev](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/sev)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9157 "2022-07-25T15:46:50Z")
I got a question for you guys… I got affiliate through my work, and when signing up for it, it says that the discount is 1% off dealer invoice PLUS whatever incentives/discounts you work out with the dealer. For Clutch’s southern Dealer, my discount is 9.5% off MSRP (like everyone else), but shouldn’t the starting price be off invoice given affiliate, meaning the discount comes off the invoice pricing with affiliate? ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9158 "2022-07-25T15:50:22Z")
If you want to be specific about affiliate, its supposed to be 1% off invoice, full stop. Some dealers give an extra 1% off whatever their discount is, which is above and beyond what its “supposed” to be. Dont punch a gift horse in the mouth. ![horse GIF by ADWEEK](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/a/3/a30d57b9ebda8d0b705d39657871ee077fc88f7b.webp) ---
**Author:** ![sev](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/sev/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@sev](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/sev)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9159 "2022-07-25T16:11:08Z")
LOL i’m not. I do specifically remember seeing that its 1% invoice plus whatever disounts avaiable. Anyway i wont rock the boat 😃 exited for my 4xe to come in! ---
**Author:** ![lulude](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/lulude/32/246821_2.png) [@lulude](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lulude)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9160 "2022-07-25T16:24:01Z")
Did anyone keep track of how resell value perform during Aug/Sep months for Sahara and Rubi? Summer is going to be over and the risk of MY23 would drop demand? ---
**Author:** ![freshwater](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/freshwater/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@freshwater](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/freshwater)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9161 "2022-07-25T16:31:53Z")
What is “MY23” . 2023 year model. . Why thats a risk ? Does resell slow down in fall winter for wranglers. With GC hitting the lots in Oct Nov that can affect the Wranglers? Or Wranglers has a different buyer . I have to say i never seen that many Wranglers on the roads this summer as compare to previous summers. 90% of them are ICE not 4xe . ---
**Author:** ![Muwa](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/muwa/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Muwa](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Muwa)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9162 "2022-07-25T16:32:27Z")
I finally got my hands on a barebones Sahara (CW,HT) flip I ordered on 4/1, and after a week I have to say I have very mixed feelings. At $350/month I think a lot of short comings of the 4xE can easily be overlooked, but upon taking delivery at $522 tax included I am struggling to see the value beyond a diminishing equity play. First thing is first: MPG. I drove from LA to San Diego and couldn’t get above 19 mpg with cruise control on. I know this is a hybrid and the city MPG is allegedly good, but I get better MPG in my S5 cabrio doing 90+ with the top down. As for using it in electric only mode, here in San Diego, chargepoint is about $0.25/kwh yielding a range of ~20ish miles for ~$4, in other words, anything getting 28 mpg at $5.60/gal would be equivalent. I can completely understand this vehicle for customers who have solar on their roof, or where electricity isn’t astronomical (San Diego has the highest rates in the country at $0.47 per kwh on peak), but for my use case the lease is just OK. I can’t say I didn’t know what I was getting into in terms of build quality and features (the lack of front parking sensors is a PITA) and removing the panels takes up a ton of space in the trunk. but at over $500 all in for a base model I can’t say that it is competitive vehicle in any regard in a normal market. I still have a Rubi on order with pretty much all of the boxes checked (SOT, Adv. Safety, CW) so we will see come late August/early September when it is due to come in if my feelings change. In hindsight, I really wish I had ordered a 392 late last year instead (more smiles per mile) for the summer and flipped that for a Defender at sticker come fall. ---
**Author:** ![instantfob](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/instantfob/32/9747_2.png) [@instantfob](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/instantfob)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9163 "2022-07-25T16:38:08Z")
Don’t expect MPG with something that has aerodynamics of cow. ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/0/4/045d9678aeccf2994f20dbf4426961d737d5fc27.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9164 "2022-07-25T17:22:37Z")
Ah, the good ol non-sensical cow comparison that doesnt actually make any sense ---
**Author:** ![MambaNJ](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mambanj/32/114985_2.png) [@MambaNJ](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/MambaNJ)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9165 "2022-07-25T17:22:58Z")
After I sign the paperwork can somebody else pick up my car after my authorization? ---
**Author:** ![lulude](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/lulude/32/246821_2.png) [@lulude](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lulude)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9166 "2022-07-25T17:26:53Z")
Yeah…model year 23 hitting the lot would drop 22 demand I’m assuming which would be a risk if you’re holding on to flip the 22. The GC 4xe doesn’t seem to have RV like of Wrangler tho. ---
**Author:** ![Half-ez](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/half-ez/32/154875_2.png) [@Half-ez](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Half-ez)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9167 "2022-07-25T18:02:54Z")
Hi all, So, I am currently going through finance paperwork for a Sahara to pick up. But I can’t find any signs of signing up for a Tread lightly account so I could send to the dealer. I did receive their free T-shirt in the mail so the sign-up must have processed. Where did you you guys get your welcome letter or what are my options here? Much appreciate any response. ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9168 "2022-07-25T18:05:28Z")
Came in the mail and in my confirmation email from tread lightly ---
**Author:** ![lulude](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/lulude/32/246821_2.png) [@lulude](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/lulude)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9169 "2022-07-25T18:06:54Z")
Should be in the mail along with the t-shirt and an email confirmation. Also, it must be activated for at least 30 days for it to work with dealership. ---
**Author:** ![Half-ez](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/half-ez/32/154875_2.png) [@Half-ez](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Half-ez)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9170 "2022-07-25T18:12:51Z")
> [@mllcb42](#): > > tread lightly Yeah, went through all of my email accounts, and can’t find a thing from Tread lightly. It was a solid few months ago so I must have misplaced the physical mail somewhere. Thanks for the replies! ---
**Author:** ![freshwater](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/freshwater/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@freshwater](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/freshwater)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9171 "2022-07-25T18:19:17Z")
Check your spam too. Email comes same or next day follwed by snail mail. ---
**Author:** ![tykurez](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/tykurez/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@tykurez](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/tykurez)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9172 "2022-07-25T19:54:12Z")
My Gobi is on the move - don’t know the etiquette, do you guys tip the shipping driver? ---
**Author:** ![MicCheck12](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/miccheck12/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@MicCheck12](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/MicCheck12)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9173 "2022-07-25T19:56:14Z")
I did for my shipments. [Previous page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590.md?page=429) [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590.md?page=431)