# HOW TO GET A GOOD WRANGLER 4XE Deal; Buckle up for a LONG read! (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** Signed Deals & Tips\ **Created:** [March 25, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590 "2022-03-25T03:20:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 427
**Author:** ![Jamestren](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jamestren/32/26680_2.png) [@Jamestren](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Jamestren)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9070 "2022-07-23T03:52:44Z")
Two things… 1- I’m about 2 weeks into my ‘22, 67K Rubi. Really want to order MY23 and hope a higher residual offsets potential MF increases. Assuming I take that risk, is there a chance values are dropping fast enough I could be left holding the bag on my 22? I was at 10% plus rebate. Taxes and title ran about $2,500 and had to be paid up front. Dealer fees, broker, and ACQ. Means my sunk cost is about $4,500. That makes my break even $57,500 on a 67K. That seems FAR from a sure thing with the market softening… right? I really want a 23’ though and I think my numbers will be better. 2- Curious others experience with cost of gas/electric. My L2 Juice charger shows I’ve used 78kWh lifetime. My Jeep says I’ve driven about 100 miles on electric. With my electric rates, that works out to $5 for 100 miles on electric. I drove from south LA dealer to OK and was only getting about 14 mpg. At $4 a gallon that’s about $28 for 100 miles. So electric is a HUGE difference. That’s $2,300 difference every 10K miles. Does that sound about right? My only problem is I’m not getting anywhere close to 22 miles on pure electric. It’s great for close stops around town though. ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9071 "2022-07-23T03:55:58Z")
Was the 2nd labeled as an assesment, or was it the first payment from your contract satisfying the assessed amount due? Id have to look at my statement, but i recall there being an assesment that posts establishing thd amount due and then the payment crediting against it. ---
**Author:** ![Qbrozen](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/qbrozen/32/40846_2.png) [@Qbrozen](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Qbrozen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9072 "2022-07-23T17:26:31Z")
6 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Random Jeep chatter](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/random-jeep-chatter/426116/6) ---
**Author:** ![freshwater](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/freshwater/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@freshwater](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/freshwater)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9074 "2022-07-23T04:14:06Z")
I recently looked at rubi and sahara resale mkt. Looks to me sahara mkt is softening but rubi are still going strong. If you sold that today you should get offers from 54k to 62k . Some will low ball you. Start with Carvana, CARMAX, AN and then check with Clutch/ LC. Think you need Registration to sell to most of the buyers. ---
**Author:** ![GOAT](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/goat/32/213310_2.png) [@GOAT](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/GOAT)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9076 "2022-07-23T04:26:21Z")
I was able to sell my highly optioned MY 2021 rubi in February, sticker was 65k (70k today) for 58k at the point where 2021 prices tanked because 2022s had landed. I believe 58k is around the bottom line for rubicons so you’ll probably break even or be a little underwater due to high rent charges. ---
**Author:** ![Qbrozen](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/qbrozen/32/40846_2.png) [@Qbrozen](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Qbrozen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 10:21am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9077 "2022-07-23T10:21:04Z")
6 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Jeep Accessories Thread](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/jeep-accessories-thread/382156/653) ---
**Author:** ![harrydogyo](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/harrydogyo/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@harrydogyo](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/harrydogyo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9078 "2022-07-23T10:56:03Z")
I agree that you should be fine. But there’s no guarantee 23 numbers are better and could be worse. ---
**Author:** ![LshkrsNoitall](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/lshkrsnoitall/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@LshkrsNoitall](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/LshkrsNoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9079 "2022-07-23T11:48:44Z")
I’m dumping my HA for 59.5 to a local dealer next week. I do like it and ordered it exactly how I wanted, but I have a Mach E coming next week, a Reign Sahara on order and it doesn’t make any sense to sit on 6k equity (it’s 8k but I put 2k out of pocket). I don’t need to insure a vehicle to sit in my driveway either, but it’s been fun. ---
**Author:** ![Qbrozen](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/qbrozen/32/40846_2.png) [@Qbrozen](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Qbrozen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9084 "2022-07-23T17:23:36Z")
3 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Random Jeep chatter](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/random-jeep-chatter/426116/2) ---
**Author:** ![malibuneen](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/malibuneen/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@malibuneen](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/malibuneen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9085 "2022-07-23T16:17:53Z")
I’ve got my keeper, but now I’m thinking about ordering another to flip. Can anyone advise me about ordering the premium soft top vs the standard soft top for a flip? Is the premium worth it? I’m thinking of ordering a white rubi soft top, with matching flairs and the basic safety package. Is there any advice anyone can give on other options I should get or not get? This would be my first flip. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Baseballpler](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/baseballpler/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Baseballpler](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Baseballpler)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9086 "2022-07-23T17:23:54Z")
Going to carmax later today to get a price on my 22 rubi with 1800 miles. Nationwide carmax only has 19 4xe and 18 of them are Sahara. The lone Rubicon is 2021 with 5k miles and they’re asking $68k. I ---
**Author:** ![Bumboola](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bumboola/32/217759_2.png) [@Bumboola](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bumboola)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9087 "2022-07-23T17:30:03Z")
Koons is telling me I can’t transfer a plate since it’s a lease lmao. Anyone run into this and know how to push back? ---
**Author:** ![Fourby3](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/fourby3/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Fourby3](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Fourby3)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9088 "2022-07-23T17:31:05Z")
what state is your car registered? ---
**Author:** ![Bumboola](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bumboola/32/217759_2.png) [@Bumboola](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bumboola)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9089 "2022-07-23T17:31:56Z")
Michigan. Never had a problem transferring plates on a lease here ---
**Author:** ![Baseballpler](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/baseballpler/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Baseballpler](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Baseballpler)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9090 "2022-07-23T17:36:53Z")
They’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Fourby3](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/fourby3/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Fourby3](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Fourby3)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9091 "2022-07-23T17:37:21Z")
I know in NJ the leasing bank actually owns the plates, so you can only transfer if you’re re-leasing through that bank and all information is the same. Maybe Michigan is like that or [most likely] the DMV company that Koons uses is advising them that MI registration process is a pain and just issue new plates. I’m sure they’ll credit you back any extra money spent less their DMV service fee - it’s not like it’s a profit center for a dealer to give new plates for another state. ---
**Author:** ![Bumboola](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bumboola/32/217759_2.png) [@Bumboola](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bumboola)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9092 "2022-07-23T17:37:30Z")
Ya i’m trying to tell them that. Will see what they say ---
**Author:** ![Svsfan](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/svsfan/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Svsfan](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Svsfan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9093 "2022-07-23T18:08:23Z")
Got my plates yesterday that was relatively quick. The third party processor contacted me on 7/14 for the paper work for CA VIN inspection and smog check. I dropped them off at usps on 7/15 and received plates in one week. ---
**Author:** ![Gearhead](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/gearhead/32/22582_2.png) [@Gearhead](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9094 "2022-07-23T18:09:44Z")
Are they sending your docs to state capital? I called the state capital and had them manually intervene to transfer plates. Dealer was Chappy though. Both CCAP vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![applestone](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/applestone/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@applestone](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/applestone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590/9095 "2022-07-23T18:11:11Z")
I picked up the jeep in mid june in CA. I have not received any registration papers or plates yet. What do I need to sell the car to autonation or carmax? I would have to wait for some documents? [Previous page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590.md?page=426) [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/how-to-get-a-good-wrangler-4xe-deal-buckle-up-for-a-long-read-part-3/412590.md?page=428)