HOW TO GET A GOOD WRANGLER 4XE Deal; Buckle up for a LONG read! (Part 2)

Why would you ever think different?

The part I find odd is that they request that info even though they can see that on the order. In any case, I have it in a Word doc that I just copy and paste as soon as I open the chat.

Hi. Just checking on build status of my order. My Name. My Address. My Email. VON: xxxxx VIN: xxxxx

They never ask for my phone number, by the way.

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Exactly. I can understand wanting to verify to a point, but I’ve had representatives that will force everything… address, email, phone number, name, etc. This is AFTER you already had to submit the information to initiate the chat. There is room for improvement, for sure.

The bright side, at least we have to ability to access a chat versus pulling teeth with the dealer for an update.

It’s crazy that they don’t have their software team focus on automating the status check, but it might be a less popular request than I imagine. Seems like it wouldn’t be that difficult to have a system access the status and display it after we enter our original information on the initial page. But also the HA’s are still broken on the builder so there is that

They used to have a system that did that, but ended it because too many people complained about not seeing progress fast enough.

Ah, interesting didn’t know that!

Texas pays 6.25% tax on the selling price of the vehicle which is absurd honestly.
To confound the absurdity, unless your lease comes with a conditional purchase agreement or a “must purchase” clause, if you wanted to buy out the vehicle you pay tax on the value at that time. So essentially you get taxed 150% on a lease if you want it after your terms are up.

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Yup, double taxation.

It’s easier to think of taxes as a fee in this situation. It must be paid regardless and is paid at lease inception by the bank you’re leasing through.
If you rolled the taxes into the monthly, the bank lends you extra money on top of what your lease cost is, and you capitalize that tax into your monthly payment.
If you pay taxes upfront, you’re essentially choosing to pay it via a down payment and are risking that money in the event of a total loss.
I don’t really see a problem with paying taxes upfront cause you’re getting charged interest on tax (gross) but it’s really up to your risk tolerance.
I still have yet to order one of these, but paying ~3500 upfront verses ~$100 a month I’m going with option 2

TEXAS PEEPS

I would like to note that behind the scenes, a bunch of us Texas hackers worked on going through a vast majority of dealerships in the state and weren’t able to replicate anything close to the broker deals, even considering a Texas dealer could qualify for a tax credit and the $2500 Texas EV rebate. I think the math works out in a Texas dealer’s favor if you can get 1% off invoice and the other benefits but wasn’t worth the headache.
In terms of profit for a flip, I think to be safe you’re gonna want to just take about $4k off the profits of what others are posting and decide if you still want to take a stab at it. I’ve been on the fence for about 6 months and with affiliate being back, I think there’s at least $3k still to be made on the right build and lucky buy price from CarMax. Worst case, Stellantis blocks 3rd party buyouts, you get double taxed and prolly lose a grand or two.

TL;DR: if you’re in Texas, go through a broker unless you can get >1% off invoice and plan on keeping. Consider making about $4k less than others in the event of a flip

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Datapoint: just received a $56,000 offer from Carmax. MSRP $58,195. 551 actual miles

Sahara
White
Body color hard top
Cold weather
Anti spin
Corning glass
Proximity key

Buyout $47,326

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You go in person? Also great offer, great equity considering on the lot deal!

No I requested the link. The pics I uploaded were terrible. Ice, snow, salt, road grim all caked over the sides.

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Looks like you’ve got some parasite growing on the running boards lol

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I drove through 8ish” of snow all day yesterday.

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Drove in 4H auto or 2H

4H auto. Didn’t spin at all. Was afraid to be stupid in 2H because I don’t plan on keeping it.

Always 4h auto. Who wants to have the power reduced?

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Today was the first time I used 4H lol :man_shrugging:

Mine looked the same this morning. Same storm came thru Tri state overnight.

Just run it thru a car wash and you’ll be good to go

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There’s minimal fuel economy difference between 2h and 4h auto, but 2h doesn’t give you all the power.

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