Find a Sam’s Club that has it in store and you can get the charger for $317.14
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40 amps … sad. EQS charges at 40A.
48 amps … awesome.
48? I would have to upgrade my panel…ugh.
Even limitting my charger to 30 Amps, I still have enough time overnight to charge my car.
Emporia is a great unit for 400
But you should be able to find the chagepoint on Amazon for just over 500
Nobody with 48A has ever lament they were charging too quickly. Bunch of folks with 32A or 40A lament charging too slowly once they add a second EV or realize someone forgot to plug in.
Don’t skimp on your L2 charger. You get a shot at doing it right. Future proof the install.
The Tesla Gen 3 can also load balance between two chargers. So when you add a second EV, the install will be easy without exceeding the NEC site limit for continuous EV loads.
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Nothing like praising your favorite brand
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I know, that’s how much better the Tesla unit is than the alternatives. I hate Tesla but I’d still recommend the Gen 3 EVSE
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I don’t believe they are made in the USA any longer.
That is the one I have as well, in white for my wifes EQS 580 SUV
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I got myself EnelX couple of years ago for free thanks to CT rebate. All talk about EV chargers - you should check how much and what models your state may cover for.
Also, it’s a big question if you will continue to lease EV is and when governments will decide to pull a rug from all EV subsidies or add extra taxes like road use tax since we don’t pay gas tax.
Future EV use isn’t always 100%. It’s just for now and may be next 5-10 years. Than we may go back to ICE/hybrid/somethingelse.
I have EnelX probably 40A and it’s enough to charge overnight Leaf (obviously w 67kwh battery) as well as ID4 and Arya with 87kwh batteries. I don’t need to charge them BOTH AT the same time. There is enough charge left than I can do then every other night and alternate
Cost aside, would you pick the Tesla universal charger or the juicebox ?
Cost aside is a funny question in LH forum:joy:
Now, may be I’ll pick universal having read than manufactures in the future will go to Tesla connector. At the time I got mine that wasn’t a solved question.
Plus. The one I have has a plug and electrician ran an outlet to the garage. So if I need to change - it should be easy since charger is not wired directly into the panel
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The lugs on the Tesla Gen 3 also support #4 AWG aluminum. There’s a lot of deliberation by Internet nerds about whether #6 or Romex are sufficient. You can nip that in the bud by just running #4.
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A few extra bucks in copper buys a lot of protection.
Couldn’t agree more here. There are things to cut costs on… this isn’t one of them. The wholesale cost for my upgraded wire alone was $600. I didn’t think twice about paying for it. The run from my main went clear across my entire house to the garage.
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The biggest benefit of the Tesla wall connector is the integration with the Tesla solar inverter in the Tesla app. If you think you might want Tesla solar, even in the future, then the decision is easy. Tesla also enforces over the top regulations to protect your private data, which is why most utilities won’t rebate on them.
No interest in Tesla solar or data privacy? I would probably go with the cheapest hardwired option that qualifies for your local utility rebate.
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Unpopular opinion: a NEMA 14-50 40 amp outlet and whatever came with your car is likely sufficient for most people…
Cue “fire”, NEMA plugs are only rated for 350 plug-in cycles, 40 amps! The horror…
I’ve had four EVs since 2015 and we currently have two. I’ve never felt the need to upgrade beyond a NEMA 14-50 and the chargers the cars came with, though admittedly the Ioniq 5 made me consider it.
First let me caveat by saying that if you’ve got an old plug or you’re paranoid about electricity/ house fires don’t consider what follows. I’m engineer regularly working in the megawatts range, I’ve got thermal cameras, etc, and I’m doing multiple things most wouldn’t support:
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I’m plugging my Ioniq 5 charger in to 240v through an adapter. Terrible idea as it’s sold and rated as a 120V/ 12A charger in the US, which adds 5 miles an hour… 50 hours for a complete charge. It is however the same charger that’s sold in Europe with a different plug, where 240 volts is normal. So plugging it in to an adapter (which will fry essentially anything else that gets plugged into it) boosts charge speed to 10 mph, letting my wife add 125 miles from 9 pm to 8:30 am. Pretty rare that’s needed.
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I have an RV splitter on the outlet giving me a second NEMA 14-50 plug on the same outlet, into which I’ve got the standard Audi E-tron GT charger set to 20 amps. If it was set to 40 amps and the Hyundai was also drawing it would overload the outlet blow the fuse, so also bad practice. But that charger gives me 12 mph charge rate or 130 miles added overnight. If that’s not enough (never) I can unplug the other charger and double the charge rate to give 260+ miles to either car in 10.5 hours.
Is this a good idea for many people? No. Someone’s going to plug the wrong thing into the 120V shaped outlet or blow the fuse, etc. But it works fine for our use, is fine on wire and outlet temps (thermal camera) and is I suspect more future proof than just about anything. If I’d done the recommended thing I’d have hardwired two chargers that are about to have obsolete plugs, I might have put them in the wrong place for my next car, etc. Would I like to have a second separate outlet? Sure. But at this point I’d likely add a second 14-50. Vehicle to load is coming to let us use our cars to back up our houses, Tesla is already working directs solar DC to the car bypassing AC losses, etc. Pretty hard to future proof against much of this IMHO. I chose to keep the investment down while avoiding any cheap Chinese crap.
I’m glad this works for you, but please no one else try this. Home insurance carrier would deny your fire claim with little to no effort here.
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I figured many would think that. Of course if that’s enough of a concern you can get one of these:
And do essentially the same thing without any chance of overloading the circuit. If I felt the need for quicker charging that’d be an easy/ cheap upgrade.
Nearly every electric is going to come with something 14-50 compatible. If you’ve got good wiring to a fresh, high quality outlet you’ve got far more capability than most people actually need imho.
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