No he’s right…most people in SoCal pay sticker or sticker+rate without batting an eye. If it’s a desirable spec (Black Exterior Package) you’re getting a grand or two off at best with buy-rate.
Not saying crazy deals haven’t been made, there’s currently an 18 Autobiography here being offered for almost 15% off, but those deals are very very rare here
If it’s a HSE with blackout and 22’s we’ll get over sticker (kinda). We add an addendum and preinstall cilajet, dynamic wheel protection, and just about every other product. That and sometimes rate gets maxed to over .003. The market here is ludicrous
Land Rover reliability issues are a myth. I just came from Cadillac and Escalades were 100000x worse than any Land Rover model (Although 2010 and earlier models are admittedly quite prone to issues).
My 2008 Range Rover would like a word. However despite the fact that it is a veritable maintenance nightmare (engine blew, coolant, air suspension, engine warning lights…) it is the most loved car in the house.
They’re far form a myth. My 2018 Velar got lemon lawed and every single loaner I had had the exact same issues - dashboard blacking out, non-responsive climate/infotainment screens that black out, power tailgate failing just to name a few. RR is phenomenal as far as drive train goes, but Alibaba parts bin for electrical work.
Ouch. Definitely rare from my experience. Believe it or not 5 of about 40 XT4s I sold at Cadillac were lemons. Countless Escalades too. Reliability is shite, and most people think the opposite. My point wasn’t that Land Rovers don’t have issues, but generally aren’t much worse than other brands.
My 2017 Full Size was 1700 0 DAS and the other dealers looked at me like I stole from them. It is so hard to get a good deal they sell 50k cars a year and they rarely discount.