# Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures (THE CORONAVIRUS LANDFILL THREAD)

**URL:** <https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467>\
**Category:** Off-Ramp\
**Tags:** COVID-19\
**Created:** [March 19, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467 "2020-03-19T07:34:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/62 "2020-03-27T01:31:03Z")

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Ok, perhaps I should say it shouldn’t work like that

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**Author:** ![vhooloo](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/vhooloo/32/3952_2.png) [@vhooloo](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/vhooloo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/63 "2020-03-27T11:24:41Z")

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> [@anon92897398](#):
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> This is why we can’t have nice things.

Speak for yourself Scrooge McScrooge. two trillion dollars is a lot of nice things for a lot of people.

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**Author:** ![Electric](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/electric/32/70040_2.png) [@Electric](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Electric)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/64 "2020-03-27T13:14:45Z")

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> [@Car payment relief during Coronavirus + incentive programs such as 'zero interest' and deferred payments](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/car-payment-relief-during-coronavirus-incentive-programs-such-as-zero-interest-and-deferred-payments/241837/199):
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> > [@anon92897398](#):
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> > This is why we can’t have nice things.
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> Speak for yourself Scrooge McScrooge. two trillion dollars is a lot of nice things for a lot of people.

Why stop there?

 ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/a/9/a9098b16001d6fe348a92d009346743d5803c468.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![wtwo3](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/wtwo3/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@wtwo3](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/wtwo3)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/65 "2020-03-27T14:42:52Z")

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That’ll get you a half eaten bag of chips

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**Author:** ![Electric](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/electric/32/70040_2.png) [@Electric](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Electric)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/66 "2020-03-27T15:40:48Z")

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My understanding is it that won’t even get you the empty bag.

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**Author:** ![Jrouleau426](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jrouleau426/32/195763_2.png) [@Jrouleau426](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Jrouleau426)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/67 "2020-03-27T17:08:44Z")

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Most people can’t fathom a trillion dollars. So here’s a video putting it into perspective.

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**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/68 "2020-03-27T19:47:45Z")

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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE

> **[VW, with plants closed by coronavirus, burns up $2.2 billion a week](https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/27/vw-coronavirus-factories-closed-finances-herbert-diess/)**
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> Volkswagen may have to cut jobs if the coronavirus pandemic is not brought under control as the carmaker is still spending about 2 billion euros ($2.2 billion) a week, Chief Executive Herbert Diess told German TV channel ZDF. Diess told the Markus...

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**Author:** ![paranoidgarliclover](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/paranoidgarliclover/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@paranoidgarliclover](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/paranoidgarliclover)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/69 "2020-03-27T19:57:35Z")

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Well, one does wonder if VWs would sell better in the US if they, you know, produced cars that Americans wanted to drive at prices that Americans are willing to pay…

Some curious quotes in the article:

_“We need to rethink production. The discipline which we had in China we do not yet have at our German locations,” he said._

_“Only if we, like China, Korea or other Asian states, get the problem under control, then we have a chance to come through the crisis without job losses. It requires a very sharp intervention,” Diess said._

I assume Diess is actually talking specifically about factory issues and not about quarantine/self-isolation issues. And, if Diess really is talking about factory issues, does anyone know what he’s specifically referring to?

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**Author:** ![Michaelx](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/michaelx/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Michaelx](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Michaelx)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/70 "2020-03-27T20:13:37Z")

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Trump has officially invoked the defense production act and will require GM to build ventilators.

> **[Trump uses Defense Production Act to require GM to make ventilators](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489909-trump-uses-defense-production-act-to-require-gm-to-make-ventilators)**
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> President Trump on Friday used the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors (GM) to produce ventilators to combat the coronavirus after days of hesitating to use the powers in the law.

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**Author:** ![Bjam](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bjam/32/51487_2.png) [@Bjam](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bjam)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/71 "2020-03-27T20:21:22Z")

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I’d like to request the Toyota built vent instead please.

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**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/72 "2020-03-27T20:30:08Z")

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> [@Michaelx](#):
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> the defense production act and will require GM to build ventilators.

> [@Bjam](#):
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> I’d like to request the Toyota built vent instead please.

I would at least like to hear Mary Barra say she would be comfortable with her children breathing on a GM ventilator.

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**Author:** ![Electric](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/electric/32/70040_2.png) [@Electric](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Electric)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/73 "2020-03-27T20:31:40Z")

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Model X bioweapon mode to the rescue.

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**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/74 "2020-03-27T20:38:21Z")

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Uhmmm…so…one is a fancy air filter to hopefully keep you from getting sick from coughing pedestrians, and the other is a breathing machine once you get sick and your lungs turn to pudding.

And if the “replace filter” alert comes up what are you going to do?

The Model X is way too homely to be allowed in my driveway.

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**Author:** ![vhooloo](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/vhooloo/32/3952_2.png) [@vhooloo](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/vhooloo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/75 "2020-03-27T11:21:19Z")

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GM is the best. They must be ogling the stimulus bailout big time. Will they finally trade under their true name of Government Motors?

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**Author:** ![vhooloo](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/vhooloo/32/3952_2.png) [@vhooloo](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/vhooloo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/76 "2020-03-27T19:13:50Z")

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Government Motors is now Government Motors and Ventilators.

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**Author:** ![mp11477](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mp11477/32/9283_2.png) [@mp11477](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mp11477)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/77 "2020-03-27T23:52:45Z")

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> [@Electric](#):
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> Model X bioweapon mode to the rescue.

Will the vent dislodge from the machine before or after the electric plug frays or the paint runs are noticed?

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**Author:** ![Electric](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/electric/32/70040_2.png) [@Electric](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Electric)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/78 "2020-03-28T00:01:04Z")

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Fair point: the early builds are nice and cheap on the market right now but the 90 packs are ticking timebombs and supercharge at a crawl since the big T nerfed them “for their own good”

I would **ONLY** buy a 100 pack X.

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**Author:** ![HersheySweet](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/hersheysweet/32/201247_2.png) [@HersheySweet](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/HersheySweet)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/79 "2020-03-28T04:19:10Z")

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Anything wrong with the 75D packs, I haven’t heard anything like the 90s.

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**Author:** ![senorbigchief](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/senorbigchief/32/71048_2.png) [@senorbigchief](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/senorbigchief)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/80 "2020-03-28T04:59:21Z")

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When GM needs a bailout I hope they don’t end up with amnesia.

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**Author:** ![Electric](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/electric/32/70040_2.png) [@Electric](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Electric)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/desperate-times-call-for-desperate-measures-the-coronavirus-landfill-thread/241467/81 "2020-03-28T05:16:28Z")

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> [@HersheySweet](#):
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> Anything wrong with the 75D packs, I haven’t heard anything like the 90s.

They tend to fare better than the 90 packs on degradation despite being 350V. (slowish supercharging but often faster than a nerfed 90 pack)

Oddly enough they can actually range very close to the 90’s due to weighing less especially when paired with a lightweight square set of wheels with lower rolling resistance tires. I still recommend a 100 pack or if you can afford it Raven motor revision. (Q2 2019 or newer)

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