Dealer not honoring promise from Dodge CEO to protect lease payment due to delivery delay

1/9/2025 EDIT: MAJOR UPDATE POSTED BELOW

Update Summary: Dealer Finance office made a mistake and sent over a lease agreement with the wrong RV and MF. This was made worse when a request to confirm the numbers was once again answered with the incorrect data by the Sales Associate. They incorrectly entered the 36M/5000mi structure with those from the 24M/5000mi. So it wasn’t a case of not honoring the Sold Order Protection, but a data entry error.

The dealer is working up a new 24M Lease Agreement, with the RV & MF originally provided, and finalizing a means of offering a “discount” that will make up for months of confusion, and some of the perceived loss in RV they caused. The end result will be a 24M Agreement with a payment a little more than my initial 36M estimates, but significantly less than what the dealer initially shared, once the error had been discovered.

Thanks to those who provided insights and suggestions.

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I am in TN, and have been working on a deal for a new 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona since late October/ early November 2024, after I placed a “First Call” Program deposit ($1000) and ordered a unit from my local Dealer.

The unit originally had an estimated delivery date of 11/7/24, but that date continues to be pushed back, two weeks each time they missed the following estimated date. During these delays, and right after I placed my order, Stellantis FS and Dodge released their Lease Program structures for this new car. It even ended up on few automotive press websites, and won them an award for ‘Best Residual’ value for an Electric Vehicle.

At that time, Stellantis FS was offering on a 3 Year, 5000 Mile Lease with a Residual of 61% (I have documentation to back this up) and a MF of 0.00006. With all my qualified discounts and incentives, that put the monthly payment around $514.00

These document screenshots are from the back and forth with their finance office. Ignore everything else (as they weren’t including my preferred pricing and incentives, and focus on the RV, which is $52,438.65 on an MSRP of $85,965. That equals 61%.


During this time, I posted online that I was disappointed with the continued delays and fearful that when the car finally arrived, my initial deal wouldn’t be honored and that the cost to acquire and the lease payment would increase. Matt McAlear, the CEO of Dodge personally responded to my post, and reassured me that my lease payment and price (including applicable incentives at the time of the order) were protected and to not worry about any changes when I took delivery.

Now that 2024 has passed, and we are in 2025, the Lease Program available at the time of my order has expired (as of January 2nd, 2025) and new structures have been released. And as you would expect, the RV is not as attractive on what is now considered a 1 year older car. Even though it was never technically released to dealers and didn’t launch until early 2025 (they are just now appearing in dealer’s inventories).

My unit finally shipped and dealer was invoiced, so we set about finalizing the Lease Contract and preparing for delivery.

Now, with the same terms (3Y/5000mi) the RV is 52% and the MF is 0.00005
That significantly increases the depreciation and bumps the monthly payment upwards of $750+, far more than we had originally agreed.

We are stuck at this point, with the manager of their Finance Office reaching out to Stellantis FS for an answer, because they claim that the CEO was wrong and that my lease terms were NOT protected.

As of today, five days after escalation, they are not returning my emails or calls.

Anyone have any experience with this type of situation? Particularly with Stellantis?

Cheers!

pretty sure the CEO account is being run by interns

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Think you’re SOL unless you signed something prior. Programs change all the time

There have been so many fantastic EV deals. Why are you wasting time and energy on this nonsense?

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Have you tried reaching McAlear directly another way (PM on LinkedIn maybe?

Does the FS company even report to him?

I don’t think the dealer’s going to push this rock up a hill for you.

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You’d probably have better luck getting your deposit back. Paying nearly $2/mile for the life of your lease is insane.

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Tommy Moore is President and CEO of SFS. It is a wholly owned subsidiary so it’s possible Moore reports to McAlear.

At a minimum McAlear should be able to offer a F&F deal, but probably can’t make a January lease use November programs without a time machine.

I never heard any brand honoring prior month’s programs at delivery unless they magically built the car same month.

I think you are out of luck and stuck into current month’s deals. Maybe just buy it out if MF is too high?

Except the ones that do? BMW will lock programs on an order through delivery. IIRC the predecessor to SFS that was Santander did this for Jeep orders…?

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Oh yes. BMW does but I thought they changed that. I just placed an order for G90 M5 wagon and the dealer told me it will be delivery programs not current.

I have heard different stuff on SFS always but then again I think all my Jeeps were using CCAP.

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Actually, it’s most likely brand managers, who have also reached out to see how they can help move this deal along.

I need this car specifically for my planned 2025 content.

Explain how you came to $2 a mile, and then I’ll show you how you aren’t making sense.

I don’t think they can change the program for one customer (other implications), but they can discount the car to make up for the program changes so that’s what you should be fighting for, even if it means the CEO gets you a custom rebate code.

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Just ask for a CDI code to make up for it. Just ruffle some feathers with sellantis and they will give you a CDI code that usually worth $2000-$5000 if you complain enough. I was given this part of my wagoneer drama.

Sorry to hear about your situation, but if I were in your shoes I would move on from this dealer and car.

Not to sound mean, but then pay up.

Or ask them to loan you one from their media pool to film your content?

Unless it’s an ongoing series of “Drive-thru Muckbang in a Charger Daytona” with a weekly shooting schedule it needs to show up for.

Anything involving feet and the shifter should be doable in a press car. :man_shrugging:t2:

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I’ve already worked ~$11,000 off the MSRP already, and to get the payment to match the original deal sheet, they’d need to take another $7600 off. I don’t think I can make that stone bleed any more, on that front.

At least you’ve run numbers and know how far apart you are. Good luck.

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First, I cannot move away. I am locked in to this deal, in order to receive the promised “First Call” program benefits. They are valuable enough to make going with an identical unit at another dealer much less attractive, and makes this deal even worse than its current state. That’s why I complained to Matt on LinkedIn and elicited his response. They knew they were risking losing their most excited and dedicated early adopters, due to the ongoing delays that pushed the launch from June, to October/November and now January of the following year.

I’m happy to pay. Pay my reasonably negotiated price at the terms that were agreed to, and backed up by the very CEO of the company that made them.