At least true in my area. Maybe doesn’t apply to yours. Or maybe the numbers I saw included their holdbacks/bonus from the manufacture…
I know several sales manager from different dealerships in person, as well as people from actual Audi.
One of my sales friend showed me their invoice, the number is under the range I mentioned. But maybe it has something to do with their bonuses or holdbacks, included or not— I have no knowledge on that part, I can’t comment.
I’m just suggesting OP to target a specific discount based on what Audi may be willing to do, what’s realistic according to their invoice, total margins… ect.
It’s simply not true, I know the true margin, as confirmed by multiple GM’s and GSM’s.
This is also before we forget about the hard costs associated with delivering/selling a new car.
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Guess one of them (the SM I know or GMs you know ) was lying then or they weren’t talking about the same “invoicing”? 
who knows.
Final goal here is, hope OP can walk out with a much better deal.
It is. But almost every car can be a deal if it’s cheap enough. It’s not that deep.
That wouldn’t be a good deal either.
Which ones? Because their gas cars don’t.
- what I meant is at least. Which means if a dealer not even willing to do 10% just walk away. And OP should easily get 12-14% at right time.
- i know audi leases, very well ( same as I have knowledge on audi lease programs.)
I researched the Q5e and it leases pretty well for what you get, provided you don’t mind an old platform and a new generation coming soon.
~10% off and $14,500 in incentives with Costco. Granted the MSRP is higher than the gas vehicle.
Alrightie then. Did you compare Q5 vs XC60 current deals? Q5 has $4-5k cash plus $2k Costco. Didn’t look at XC60, but the deals could be similar, depending on discounts. Just saying “don’t lease that car because it’s the old design” contradicts to what you said above:
Maybe there is a reason OP prefers Audi.
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I think @kekirius is netting in the holdback and trunk money and isn’t just looking at the initial purchase price from Audi that it cost the dealership.
If he legit thinks “invoice” is 15%, his logic makes no sense because then a savvy shopper would demand 20% off to dip into the holdback and factory to dealer cash.
Volvo has $1000 anniversary cash this month plus $1250. No Costco unfortunately but I guess their anniversary cash makes up for it.
thanks for the input, will def try to target a better deal.
If you love the hunt, keep at it. If you need a car and want to keep your life simple- hire a vetted LH broker that has done the work for you. Your time is invaluable.
yea ive been using brokers for all my leases so far. my dealer just happened to reach out because he knows my lease is coming to an end and wanted to see if i was interested in a new Q5
Hoping someone can provide some feedback. About to pull the trigger on a 2025 SQ5 (TX / 36m / 10k miles).
Got the 7k in rebates (national + costco), and an additional 7k off that. Planning to do a one time lease pay as it reduces the tax down from 6.25% to 1.25%.
Any feedback would be appreciated!
Do your best attempt at the calculation. On the surface looks no good especially without tax credits.
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Thanks for the response. Attached is the full lease agreement breakdown (includes Audi Care). Looks like the tax credits are included in there bringing it to 1.25% instead of 6.25% unless I’m mistaken. Of my 14k discount, looks like only 6 of it is being applied to the capitalized cost. And then they’re taking 8k rebate off of that.
I suppose that is where they get me but I’m wondering if I can negotiate more off of my capitalized cost? I’m just having trouble seeing if there really is more room to draw them down.
I am not the best w/ these things, but I don’t know what that means.
I also don’t see any indication of a rebate at all.
I agree w/ the other poster that you should make a best attempt at a calculator. Assuming you are correct about the rebates that can be applied, I think there’s a chance that your deal is actually at MSRP.
You really need to take an attempt at the calculator if you want folks to help you. From what you attached you are going to pay 40k to drive an outdated car for 3 years? Take a step back and do some research before you make your next move.
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2b. is blank, what rebates are you talking about?
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Apologies, was on mobile and unable to do the calculator in the moment. Here is the calculation however I couldn’t get it to fully align with my numbers. This is using a money factor of .003702 per dealer and RV of 61% (60%+1% for Audi Care): Leasehackr Calculator - Hack your next lease | Leasehackr
Since I first asked here, I was able to get the dealer to include the full discounts/rebates included in the capitalized costs as shown below. @leasefumblr they originally weren’t including those rebates in the adj cap cost, which is why it was blank. Now it shows the 8k.
Apologies @LeaserOC I should have included the calculator first. I’ve been adjusting the calculator based on my negotiations and also doing my own calculations but can never seem to deduce how these dealers ultimately get their numbers.