There are many here that list the pre-incentive discounts they offer
Im a bottom feeder @dazedanconfuzd 
. My opinions on what is a good deal are almost always unrealistic. I wait stuff out until opportunities present TBH. That basically means shopping when you dont actually need a car.
ReallyâŚ, the best deals are going to be on loanersâŚ2020 ideally. 3 series are ubiquitous in dealer fleets. If you can find one you like and get 20% discount or so the total cost starts to begin to get enticing.
Unfortunately the bmw lease programs at the moment are driving prices up on basically every model.
@mllcb42 well theyâre certainly better than Audi. I went to a few dealers that wouldnât entertain anything below a 4% pre incentive discount. Brokers certainly seem to be the only options for Audi deals.