# Can this save Manual Transmission? **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Ramp\ **Tags:** ford\ **Created:** [February 10, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312 "2022-02-10T20:24:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![justsharing](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/justsharing/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@justsharing](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/justsharing)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/1 "2022-02-10T20:24:55Z")
> **[Ford Motor Company Just Secured Patent on Game-Changing Manual Transmission Tech](https://www.outsider.com/news/ford-motor-company-just-secured-patent-game-changing-manual-transmission-tech/)** > > A newly-discovered patient plan from Ford Motor Company could be a game-changer, as it takes away the clutch. Can this save MT? ---
**Author:** ![Masterblaster](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/masterblaster/32/2613_2.png) [@Masterblaster](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Masterblaster)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/2 "2022-02-10T21:14:37Z")
As much fun as paddle shifters. Or those buttons on the selector column. Nothing like a traditional (clutch) manual transmission and some real horsepower. The power in taming the beast ! ![manual trans](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/c/7/c7578351beeef437a3511716d25500c003a3d046.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Firstkill](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/firstkill/32/237455_2.png) [@Firstkill](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Firstkill)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/3 "2022-02-10T21:17:25Z")
Unless it’s cheap. I’m not sure how much of a premium this is worth compared to a dual clutch system when you can fake it with a “stick” ---
**Author:** ![trism](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/trism/32/26973_2.png) [@trism](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/trism)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/4 "2022-02-10T21:24:03Z")
I’ve said this in other contexts as well, but I didn’t get the automotive nostalgia gene. Apparently it skips a generation. ---
**Author:** ![wam22](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/wam22/32/117390_2.png) [@wam22](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/wam22)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/5 "2022-02-10T21:37:12Z")
Nope because the people that want a manual will want a true manual and with EVs going to make up the majority of production going forward, it is too late. If this was introduced 10 years ago, it might have saved the manual. ---
**Author:** ![paranoidgarliclover](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/paranoidgarliclover/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@paranoidgarliclover](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/paranoidgarliclover)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/6 "2022-02-10T21:40:56Z")
> [@Masterblaster](#): > > some real horsepower Disclaimer: I have never driven a manual-trans car in my life. I thought part of the fun in driving a manual was extracting the max potential from the engine… So, on public streets, a relatively underpowered car is fun b/c it makes you work more. > [@Firstkill](#): > > dual clutch system Article says that the system might include an electronic clutch that even provides some sort of feedback on when the “clutch” is “engaged.” ---
**Author:** ![Firstkill](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/firstkill/32/237455_2.png) [@Firstkill](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Firstkill)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/7 "2022-02-10T21:46:57Z")
Even worse to make a complicated system to fake it. For me the manual driving is fun as it adds to the challenge of driving. Always maintaining the car in the correct power band. All moot with no gears in electric. ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/8 "2022-02-10T22:01:07Z")
I wonder why they think the clutch pedal was ever the problem. ---
**Author:** ![justsharing](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/justsharing/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@justsharing](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/justsharing)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/9 "2022-02-10T22:23:00Z")
> [@wam22](#): > > people that want a manual will want a true manual True that. I don’t think it will differentiate itself enough from other automatics. The manual clutch has a very different feel & also serves a great purpose related to controling power delivery which i don’t think any automatic or semiautomatic system can provide. ---
**Author:** ![fnord1983](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/fnord1983/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@fnord1983](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/fnord1983)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/10 "2022-02-10T23:05:41Z")
ford doesn’t have a great track record when it comes to new transmission technology. ---
**Author:** ![forbs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/forbs/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@forbs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/forbs)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/11 "2022-02-10T23:07:36Z")
Anything is better than Nissan’s ---
**Author:** ![paranoidgarliclover](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/paranoidgarliclover/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@paranoidgarliclover](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/paranoidgarliclover)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/12 "2022-02-10T23:11:37Z")
Genuine question: do you think there was just one problem? Or many problems (and which ones)? For me, I think driving a manual _might_ be fun. But I live in a metro area, so I honestly think it’d mainly be a PITA. Parking my office garage is super tight, and I often have to make multiple turns to get into the spot. And sometimes, when I’ve had a tough day at the office, I just want to drive home in relatively peace and quiet (which wouldn’t include having to shift gears and work a clutch). But I also kinda/sorta wonder if there’d be fewer accidents if automatics didn’t exist since presumably you need to pay attention at all times w/ a manual. ---
**Author:** ![forbs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/forbs/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@forbs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/forbs)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/13 "2022-02-10T23:13:34Z")
> [@paranoidgarliclover](#): > > if there’d be fewer accidents if automatics didn’t exist since presumably you need to pay attention at all times w/ a manual. There would be more accidents, as a ‘manual’ requires more skill to drive and some folk can’t multitask that well. ---
**Author:** ![m3mike](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/m3mike/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@m3mike](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/m3mike)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/14 "2022-02-10T23:35:44Z")
I think this is going to be a miss - if ever brought to mass market. Those who want an automatic transmission want it out of convenience or for performance (think PDK). They either do not want to be bothered with additional driver input, or want to be the fastest. Plain and simple. Period. Those that want a manual want it for engagement. They don’t care about being the fastest. They demand a third pedal and an analog shifter. Not only that, but they want to announce to the entire world they drive a stick, that it’s the best way to enjoy your car, it makes you a better driver, it’s a theft deterrent…and on and on. I can’t for the life of me see (with the exception of an extremely small sample size for the ‘unique’ factor) where someone that wants to shift manually would optionally give up a clutch for this. On that same note, I can’t for the life of me see where someone that wants the convenience of an automatic would say you know what - I want to run through the gates. I would guarantee the vast majority of people with paddle shifters or manual shifting capabilities on their cars now don’t even know the last time they used them. A true manual has its applications, as does an automatic, in my opinion. It’s black or it’s white - grey is useless to me. ---
**Author:** ![paranoidgarliclover](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/paranoidgarliclover/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@paranoidgarliclover](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/paranoidgarliclover)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/15 "2022-02-10T23:52:30Z")
But that’s sort of my point. I wonder if there would be fewer people driving b/c they could no longer multitask while driving. Or maybe people would actually stop multitasking? I know, maybe wishful thinking… ::sigh:: ---
**Author:** ![forbs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/forbs/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@forbs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/forbs)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/16 "2022-02-10T23:55:31Z")
> [@paranoidgarliclover](#): > > I wonder if there would be fewer people driving b/c they could no longer multitask while driving. Lol, you funny, less people driving? We got people who drive without licenses and people who can’t even tell the diff between the accelerator and the brake, and you think a little thing called a clutch will prevent them from driving? ---
**Author:** ![paranoidgarliclover](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/paranoidgarliclover/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@paranoidgarliclover](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/paranoidgarliclover)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:01am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/17 "2022-02-11T00:01:44Z")
> [@forbs](#): > > you think a little thing called a clutch will prevent them from driving? Well… yes. If they can’t tell the diff btw the throttle, brake, or clutch… or know how to put the car into neutral, they won’t even be able to start the car, no? If they somehow manage to figure how to start the car, they won’t really be able to get out of first gear. And I’m assuming their forward progress will be limited since braking (w/o knowing how to use a manual trans) will stall the car, right? ---
**Author:** ![forbs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/forbs/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@forbs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/forbs)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/18 "2022-02-11T00:04:06Z")
Fewer ‘accidents’ is really what you said. Think about all the people who make a single mistake while trying to shift. That’s more accidents, not less. Less people on the road, and I believe more accidents. On the good side, less people reading their phones because they are too busy shifting…haha ---
**Author:** ![Firstkill](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/firstkill/32/237455_2.png) [@Firstkill](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Firstkill)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/19 "2022-02-11T00:14:31Z")
stalling/roll back on hills will cause more trouble/accidents. That’s the hardest thing to learn to do well. Driving as a past time is dying in the US. It’s just a mode of transportation now. Even a lot of people don’t learn to drive and just Uber/Lyft around in big cities. But maybe car culture is dying in my social circle. ---
**Author:** ![syedhasan](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/syedhasan/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@syedhasan](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/syedhasan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312/20 "2022-02-11T00:52:12Z")
I never understand the craze behind the manual. Sure it’s fun and engaging for the time being. But daily driving anything in a manual is hell - bigger pain in the ass if you live in a metro. Hardcore enthusiasts will argue driving to them is life - no one’s life like that. Nobody And the car journalist pile into this BS too - while driving back home in a Nissan cvt. [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/can-this-save-manual-transmission/407312.md?page=2)